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Day 17 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 2, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/02/2013 5:16:14 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 2nd, is DAY #17 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Today Detective Chris Serino will be back on the stand. [Yesterday ended] on the stand with Chris Serino, who was the lead investigator for the Sanford Police Department on the Trayyvon Martin shooting.

Defense counsel Mark O’Mara led cross-examination with his usual consummate skill, obtaining responses from this witness–remember, the State’s witness–that all but completely guts the State’s charge in this case.

Among the key revelations so far: Zimmerman was always completely cooperative, open, and straightforward with all the police investigators over many weeks of multiple interviews, both in person at the police station and phone. The sense given is that Zimmerman demonstrated endless patience. (continue reading summary)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; martin; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: DCBryan1

Well, Zimmerman was not bright in how he handled his interraction with police. That much is true. But there is a thing called “being in shock” which could interfere with one’s normal ability to reason.


681 posted on 07/02/2013 9:23:31 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: spacejunkie2001
I cannot believe they left those parents in the courtroom to shake their heads and roll their eyes (and chew gum). Pathetic.

And this is during the state' case! They'll sound like Al Gore at a debate when the defense starts their case!

682 posted on 07/02/2013 9:23:52 AM PDT by Repealthe17thAmendment (Is this field required?)
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To: Uncle Chip

Witness admits he’s not positive at what point GZ told him he re-holstered. Not problematic imo.


683 posted on 07/02/2013 9:24:14 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: DrewsMum

How does she know what the jurors were taken note of in the first place?


684 posted on 07/02/2013 9:24:45 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Lurking Libertarian

If you have time, could you address why an author’s testimony about a book he wrote documenting George Zimmerman’s account of the Trayvon Martin shooting would not be hearsay? Note that the author is a very close personal friend of Zimmerman and a former police officer.

I’ve speculated that it could the following exception:

d) a writing about an event made close to the time it occurred, which may be used during trial to refresh a witness’s memory about the event;

If you don’t have time or don’t care to give an opinion, no big deal - as always. It’s just a curiosity on my part.


685 posted on 07/02/2013 9:25:04 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: All

WFTV is saying the state did not get much to go on from this witness compared to what O’Mara got.


686 posted on 07/02/2013 9:25:22 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Repealthe17thAmendment

The first witnesses that I would call if the defense is the Zimmerman’s so that they can then get back into the courtroom,


687 posted on 07/02/2013 9:25:47 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Ronald_Magnus

another Bernie overreach


688 posted on 07/02/2013 9:26:28 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: patriot08
Is it possible to speak after being shot thru the heart?

There is enough blood in the brain for conscious activity to occur for a couple of minutes after the blood stops flowing. In the days of the French Revolution, executioners would pick of the heads of the victims of the guillotine and see them still trying to speak.

689 posted on 07/02/2013 9:27:57 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: ArmstedFragg; P-Marlowe

I’ve been in neighborhoods where all units of a community were numbered consecutively, but even then knowing the street name gets you there faster

I do think that the jury is a bunch of no nothing low info types , so controlling what they get to know can be very effective in controlling the direction their conclusion will take.


690 posted on 07/02/2013 9:28:02 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Im sorry but this isn’t a daily chat thread for lonely people who don’t have somoene at home to talk with about dinner or the weather or making huge space consuming posts for some joke. Some of us are trying to talk about what’s happening in the trial today. I mean there are actual witnesses currently on the stand. If you wanna post BS wait until after they go to lunch or are dismissed for the day. The thread was already hijacked yesterday by nonsense.


691 posted on 07/02/2013 9:28:06 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: traderrob6

That’s right.

But I personally don’t believe the female jurors on this jury would poll that way if they answered the question.

A different make up of a jury might.

Btw, for those that RIDICUOUSLY AND REPEATEDLY berated me yesterday when I said I was following some tweets yesterday about the trial ...because they dare couldnt be right

DO NOT GO HERE

but for others that want a breakdown of what is being said

You can check this out.

https://twitter.com/LawSelfDefense


692 posted on 07/02/2013 9:28:15 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Sacajaweau

Are you an attorney? That is in no way an antagonistic question. LL and you are on my SCOTUS ping list. I sometimes ask LL for an attorney’s explanation. So I’m hoping you are an attorney and can provide answers to questions occassionally. :)


693 posted on 07/02/2013 9:28:41 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: XenaLee

Plus, Zimmerman felt he did nothing wrong at all. He called the police who were on their way. He was heading back to his vehicle and was sucker punched.

People speak freely to LE when they don’t believe they have anything to hide or not in any legal jeopardy. His cooperation resulted in him not being charged with any crime.... until the Jesse & Al show came to town.

Now we have this show trial.


694 posted on 07/02/2013 9:29:08 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: traderrob6; Cboldt

In my opinion.... The Jury should hear the ‘opinion’ of a witness, but chalk it up to ‘speculation’.

However, if all the witnesses have the same ‘opinion’ and it agrees with the defendant’s repeated statements to police, then it is ‘evidence’.


695 posted on 07/02/2013 9:29:24 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: DCBryan1

Good example of how to put it to the police.


696 posted on 07/02/2013 9:29:57 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: DCBryan1

“I think they were talking about burglary tools:”

Of course they were! Poor joke on my part. Just that when I hear “Slim Jims” I think of the snack first.


697 posted on 07/02/2013 9:30:24 AM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Sacajaweau; Squantos

Never mind. I had you confused with Squantos. Sorry about that.

(Courtesy ping to Squantos.)


698 posted on 07/02/2013 9:30:33 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: RummyChick
that would save me getting attacked again over and over... I've never weighted in on this discussion but I feel I have to now. You want to stop being attacked? Then drop it already. You keep saying the same thing over and over again no matter what people tell you. Don't want to get hammered? then after you make your point ignore anyone jumping on you, soon they will all stop. Keep running your mouth and they will never shut up, because you won't.
699 posted on 07/02/2013 9:31:38 AM PDT by calex59
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To: All

HEADS UP: WFTV said they have developing news about a motion filed by the state regarding defense Atty. West and a pic of his daughters. They will talk about this later in their news broadcast.


700 posted on 07/02/2013 9:31:49 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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