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Day 17 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 2, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/02/2013 5:16:14 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 2nd, is DAY #17 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Today Detective Chris Serino will be back on the stand. [Yesterday ended] on the stand with Chris Serino, who was the lead investigator for the Sanford Police Department on the Trayyvon Martin shooting.

Defense counsel Mark O’Mara led cross-examination with his usual consummate skill, obtaining responses from this witness–remember, the State’s witness–that all but completely guts the State’s charge in this case.

Among the key revelations so far: Zimmerman was always completely cooperative, open, and straightforward with all the police investigators over many weeks of multiple interviews, both in person at the police station and phone. The sense given is that Zimmerman demonstrated endless patience. (continue reading summary)

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: georgezimmerman; martin; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: Uncle Chip

MOM has some rehab work.


241 posted on 07/02/2013 7:13:21 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: Cboldt

Are you an attorney? Just curious.


242 posted on 07/02/2013 7:13:23 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: don-o

TM could have been still alive and brought his arms to his chest before he died.


243 posted on 07/02/2013 7:13:29 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: RummyChick
Serino just dealt a blow

Yes. In Round 14 of a 15 round championship fight, the bloodied and staggering boxer gets in his first punch of the fight.

244 posted on 07/02/2013 7:13:39 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: IChing

” He won the first few minutes by having Serino’s opinion of Zimmerman’s truthfulness thrown out”

Baldy just asked if serrino “felt” zimmerman could be exaggerating. Why didn’t Omara object? The judge basically threw out testimony of serino that said he “felt” zimmerman was telling the truth. Same thing.


245 posted on 07/02/2013 7:13:59 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Uncle Chip
which indicates that O’Mara does not believe that this judge will dismiss the case after the state rests and he’s telling her and Bernie and the court in so many words that things will get particularly nasty if or when she doesn’t.

Wait. What? I don't understand that last statement you made. What did I miss here?

246 posted on 07/02/2013 7:13:59 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie.)
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To: don-o

LOL! So true....


247 posted on 07/02/2013 7:14:34 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: IChing

I’m laughing about the knowing street name. There is a junction with three names on the sign at the T road that adjoins my property. It does not have the name of the road in my address
Even if there was a sign it was dark and his flash light didn’t work.


248 posted on 07/02/2013 7:14:49 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Toespi

I didn’t see where she was “excommunicated”....I saw where several very patient Freepers were trying to explain the errors in her theory. I also saw where she was even admonished to just step back and consider that she is well respected and continuing in the manner she was going may cause FR to lose respect and for her to lose credibility.

I get the passion and trying to get to the bottom of thing and even trying to explain yourself if you are misunderstood. I GET IT. I am that person. I have done that several times in my life and I understand. I also know many times I was a pain in the butt because I refused to acknowledge (acknowlege?) some glaring facts. I was feeling bad for her knowing that she wasn’t realizing what she doing and refusing to listen to people trying to tell her. But, it’s a new day and maybe we can carry on with a little more....coherency...for lack of a better word...


249 posted on 07/02/2013 7:15:00 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: Uncle Chip

bahahahhahahahah

talk about a poster but poster shouldnt reply

PS..did you notice the blow that Serino landed about the injuries.

Let’s see if O’Mara can diffuse it.


250 posted on 07/02/2013 7:15:03 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Please just stop, or take it to another thread. I really would like to be able to follow what is happening in the case without having to read your incessant nattering over whether you are right or not about one small piece of the case. No one cares anymore about your opinion on that - you beat that dead horse to a bloody pulp yesterday. Don’t start again.


251 posted on 07/02/2013 7:15:46 AM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

That was my thought. After GZ pulled them our he drew them back in to his wounded chest.


252 posted on 07/02/2013 7:15:48 AM PDT by jacquej
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To: spacejunkie2001

Did Bernie just open the door when he asked about Serino being taken off the case?


253 posted on 07/02/2013 7:15:58 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: don-o

What about the PD that attempted CPR? Did they not move the arms? I thought first officer on the scene confirmed the arm position that GZ described. Or was it not possible that TM could have moved after GZ let go of him?


254 posted on 07/02/2013 7:16:31 AM PDT by Ironfocus
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To: All

Yay! Omara picked up the emphasis on the word ‘a$$hole’ and is difussing.


255 posted on 07/02/2013 7:16:36 AM PDT by Fawn (In a World of Information, Ignorance is a Choice.)
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To: don-o

The problem is the jury.

Did you notice how many woman didn’t believe GZ in the poll.

As one poster just pointed out here..

Don’t be dancing a victory dance.

Even though he has pretty good jurors.


256 posted on 07/02/2013 7:16:40 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

Ok, I keep seeing “conflicting story” from GZ...

But, I have only seen consistency.

What am I missing?


257 posted on 07/02/2013 7:16:44 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: traderrob6
-- How can you say that?
He's a 16 year police veteran and Detective. His JOB is forming an opinion on the veracity or lack thereof concerning suspects.
--

There is a bright line distinction in trial, between an expert and a fact witness. In this trial, all of the investigators and police are fact witnesses.

It would be hard for me to do justice to a decent explanation, but the fact that a cop has 20, 30 or 40 years of experience does not entitle him to tell the jury whether or not a witness is telling the truth. That's for the jury to decide.

Not to say that Serino isn't a good judge of truthfulness, he probably is very good at it. But "truthfulness" can also be determined by a jury, without resort to an expert - that's the whole point of trial/jury, to have the jury weigh the evidence.

258 posted on 07/02/2013 7:16:54 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Nervous Tick

At this point, the prosecution has brought up the language that Zimmerman used ‘f’in punks’ and ‘they always get away’.

The defence could bring up the fact that the area has had many burgaries and break in’s and this pure frustration by Zimmerman because they were never caught and not as a remark at little trayvon.


259 posted on 07/02/2013 7:17:29 AM PDT by RetSignman (Immigration border protection is America's version of the Maginot Line)
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To: Toespi

“The arm deal really has me puzzled”

I thought about that too. But if Travon was not immediately dead and it hurt, he may have moved his arms toward the wound.


260 posted on 07/02/2013 7:17:49 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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