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Secret-court judges upset at portrayal of ‘collaboration’ with government
Washington Post ^ | No Date Given | Carol D. Leonnig, Ellen Nakashima and Barton Gellman,

Posted on 06/30/2013 6:38:57 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Recent leaks of classified documents have pointed to the role of a special court in enabling the government’s secret surveillance programs, but members of the court are chafing at the suggestion that they were collaborating with the executive branch.

A classified 2009 draft report by the National Security Agency’s inspector general relayed some details about the interaction between the court’s judges and the NSA, which sought approval for the Bush administration’s top-secret domestic surveillance programs. The report was described in The Washington Post on June 16 and released in full Thursday by The Post and the British newspaper the Guardian.

U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, the former chief judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, took the highly unusual step Friday of voicing open frustration at the account in the report and court’s inability to explain its decisions.

“In my view, that draft report contains major omissions, and some inaccuracies, regarding the actions I took as Presiding Judge of the FISC and my interactions with Executive Branch officials,” Kollar-Kotelly said in a statement to The Post. It was her first public comment describing her work on the intelligence court.

The inspector general’s draft report is among the many documents leaked by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden, touching off a roiling national debate about the proper balance between the government’s reach into Americans’ lives and the effort to protect the nation in the Internet age.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazi; fastandfurious; fisa; fisacourt; impeachnow; irs; nsa; snowden; tyranny
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1 posted on 06/30/2013 6:38:57 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Throw a rock into a pack of dogs.....


2 posted on 06/30/2013 6:40:17 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: All

H/T to the Drudge Report.


3 posted on 06/30/2013 6:40:19 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Hey sheeple, that stuff you know nothing about - and the heavily redacted and still top secret report about it, they got it wrong, that’s not the way it works and you should just trust me on that.”


4 posted on 06/30/2013 6:41:04 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The two faces of government is nothing new move along.


5 posted on 06/30/2013 6:44:18 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly.....well, well, well....

Kellar-Kotelly gets her panties in a bunch because she is seen as collaborating with government and then where does she go? The Washington Post, who ISN'T ever seen as a collaborator of another sort, is it?

The truth is that she and the rest of her ilk are just rubber-stamps for dubious requests by privacy-invading government officials who are averse to doing their job the right way.

6 posted on 06/30/2013 6:44:20 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

A judge who never rejects a government request is not “judicial review” but a rubber stamp of approval.


7 posted on 06/30/2013 6:45:17 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And they’re not collaborating?

Boohoo.


8 posted on 06/30/2013 6:46:22 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Q: What do you call a lawyer who failed at private practice?

A: "Your Honor."

Q: What do you call a judge who failed on the bench?

A: "Congressman"

9 posted on 06/30/2013 6:47:58 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Gaffer

“U.S. District Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly.”

She is 70 years old and a Bill Clinton appointee. No way can she figure fact from fiction in an NSA snow job. Why they need a FISA court order from her to surveil millions of Americans. She looks like a rubber stamp to me


10 posted on 06/30/2013 6:51:42 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: All

This is clearly a June 2013 article but I found no date....perhaps it was not published in the paper that some of the public sees.


11 posted on 06/30/2013 6:52:56 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

They don’t like it because their rubberstamp operation and whole body of top secret case law has now been exposed.


12 posted on 06/30/2013 6:58:00 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: All; Marine_Uncle; NormsRevenge; TigersEye; onyx; justa-hairyape; Grampa Dave; SierraWasp; ...
From Drudge:

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PAPER: NSA has secret data collection agreement with European countries...

EU demands explanation...

Germany compares to 'Cold War'...


Judges in secret court upset with their portrayal...

PAPER: Number of Govt Wiretaps Rose 71% Last Year...

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The lat link is also to a Washington Post article that seems not to be available now....

how surprising....


13 posted on 06/30/2013 6:58:37 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Irenic
A judge who never rejects a government request is not “judicial review” but a rubber stamp of approval.

If they just approve, they are adding no value. If on the other hand, like a building inspector, they identify defects that are corrected and then approve - that might add value. Until they tell us more we only have the approval rate to go on.

14 posted on 06/30/2013 7:01:14 AM PDT by jimfree (In November 2016 my 13 y/o granddaughter will have more quality exec experience than Barack Obama)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Secret-court judges upset at portrayal of ‘collaboration’ with government

Truth hurt doesn't it...deal with it. The fact is the FISA is not doing your job protecting the American people and cannot be trusted.


15 posted on 06/30/2013 7:01:44 AM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; All
Related:

The judges who preside over America's secret court

For secretive surveillance court, rare scrutiny in wake of NSA leaks

16 posted on 06/30/2013 7:02:01 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: tbw2
Yep, and the problem is that the "accused" are not represented in any way in these secret star chamber hearings, which are apparently simple discussions between DOJ lawyers and the FISA judges, with the judges pointing out problems in the DOJ warrants and telling the government lawyers how to fix them so that they can then be signed.

Yeah, that's real legal oversight all right.

17 posted on 06/30/2013 7:05:05 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

It was published yesterday, June 29. Be sure to get a screenshot in case it disappears too.


18 posted on 06/30/2013 7:07:38 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Collaborating” - that’s a good word. It comes freighted with a lot of historical perspective that helps one know what to do with the “collaborators”. We should use it more.


19 posted on 06/30/2013 7:09:19 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes everything. Bolshies' gonna bolsh.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Even if you assume (big assumption) that the FISA court orders the NSA to comply with certain safeguards, the court is then dependent upon the NSA to self-report whether those safeguards are in place and followed.

Court: “You won’t snoop around things you shouldn’t, right?”

NSA: “Of course not and we’ll tell you if we do.” (Hiding smirk)

Court: “OK, Approved.”


20 posted on 06/30/2013 7:12:18 AM PDT by JackOfVA
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