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Rubio's immigration strategy worked brilliantly, but disappointed many (Pyrrhic Victory)
Washington Examiner ^ | June 27, 2013 | Byron York

Posted on 06/29/2013 7:53:30 PM PDT by Timber Rattler

In the end, immigration reform really was a done deal in the Senate. Debates come down to numbers on Capitol Hill, and the Gang of Eight reform team had the numbers. Needing 60 votes to overcome a filibuster, they started with the Senate's 54 Democrats and then added the four Republican Gang members. With 58 votes in the bag, it wasn't hard to get to 60. So most of the 14 Republicans who ultimately voted to get the Gang bill past a filibuster were extras, not needed for passage but helpful to allow the reformers to claim a broad mandate.

From the beginning, many Senate Republicans were terrified of immigration reform. They knew a large part of their base opposed any measure that smelled of "amnesty." But they were also deeply shaken by last November's election results, in which Mitt Romney won just 27 percent of the Hispanic vote. Some GOP strategists, and some Senate colleagues, told them the Republican Party would be finished unless it supported reform.

What to do? First, they tried not to stick their necks out. For several months, if you asked a Republican senator a substantive question about immigration, the answer was, "Let's see what Marco comes up with."

Florida Sen. Marco Rubio has been more than the GOP point man on immigration. From January, when the Gang of Eight announced its intentions, until April, when it unveiled its bill, Rubio was the man Republicans hid behind. "We're waiting for Marco" became the Senate Republican caucus' unofficial position on immigration.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: amnesty; marcorube; marcorubio; rube; rubio
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To: my small voice
At the end of the day, our destruction lays at the feet of the media. We should be picking them apart. They are the ones committing treason every day. They have reduced the GOP to a bunch of sniveling losers stupidly trying to gain the public’s favor by copying the Dems playbook of giving stuff to lazy good for nothing people. They allow the public to be uninformed and stupid. The left could not do what they are doing this but for the media........

Exactly.

The media is the greatest propaganda machine the world has ever known. More subtle than Hitler or Stalin's media, and better funded.

The media never, ever vetted Obama. There is so much we do not know about this vile man, thanks to the media. They are, as Democrat Pat Caddel put it, the enemy of the American media. They must be defeated first.

41 posted on 06/29/2013 9:20:37 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (Actually, they lie when it suits them! The crooked MS media must be defeated any way it can be done!)
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To: Timber Rattler

If it has anything in the bill to do with spending technically it’s toast. All new spending has to originate in House bills.


42 posted on 06/29/2013 9:25:54 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Timber Rattler
Palin said it best:


43 posted on 06/29/2013 9:32:54 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: svcw
Rubio's immigration strategy worked brilliantly

Yeah, and Ned Beatty had a great weekend canoeing in North Georgia.


44 posted on 06/29/2013 11:28:59 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: cripplecreek
Former FReeper Pissant was dead on target with Rubio.

That guy was a broken clock. He was miles off on Sarah Palin, and thought that Duncan Hunter would be President in 2012.

45 posted on 06/29/2013 11:34:39 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
He’s ‘former’? Dang! I’m not on here enough.

Please....you're kidding, right? Pissant has been gone for over two years now.

46 posted on 06/29/2013 11:36:43 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Rubio’s role was to be chaff aimed at the middle of the Party. He didnt need to convert us, just neutralize us (with the help of Zuckerberg’s lying ads).

The goal was to fix the mistakes made in 2006 by convincing enough of the party that conservatives would be brought along to pass amnesty (and Rubio was the face of this sleight of hand).

The GOP-e is patting themselves on the back for saving the Republican Party from both demographics and their own base.

Indeed, the reverse will happened. Amnesty will prove to be the breaking point of the GOP. The problem with “where else do conservatives have to go” is that eventually, it no longer matters just so long as its no longer here. We’ve arrived at that point. Thank you, Marco: I mean that. You destroyed the Republican Party and eventually, we’ll all be better as a result. In the meantime, my thanks is accompanied by a healthy “Freep You” to boot.


47 posted on 06/30/2013 12:10:53 AM PDT by ziravan (Choose sides. That includes you too, NSA snoop.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Hope Rubio gets recalled.


48 posted on 06/30/2013 2:02:19 AM PDT by Mozilla
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To: Timber Rattler
As the conservative Center for Immigration Studies points out, “Illegal aliens will be rewarded for breaking laws for which American citizens are routinely punished” such as the use of fraudulent Social Security cards, while imposing a $1,000 penalty that “in many cases would be waived. Then they would be issued a new Social Security number without any past bad credit or arrest records.”

TALKING POINTS---Just before the IR procedural vote, Judiciary Committee member Sen Grassley offered a simple amendment to the Judiciary Committee considering voting the immigration bill out of commmittee. "The secretary (of homeland security) may not grant registered provisional immigrant status to an alien under this section unless the alien fully discloses to the secretary all the names and Social Security account numbers that the alien has ever used to obtain employment in the United States," said Grassley's amendment.

Grassley's amendment would not have prohibited illegal aliens from being converted into legal aliens just because they had used names and Social Security numbers that did not belong to them. It would only have required that the illegal aliens make the names and numbers they used known to DHS before they could be granted the right to legally live in the United States.

Grassley said, "Congress should not thumb its nose at the millions of Americans who are victims of identity theft, often perpetrated by an undocumented person who steals Social Security numbers to get jobs, govt benefits, driver's licenses and more. This amendment will simply require the person applying for RPI status to disclose any previously used Social Security numbers," said Grassley. "It's the first step to helping clean up the mess that's been created for the victim of identity theft. The amendment also authorizes certain federal agencies, upon receipt of this information, to notify individuals who were the victims."

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ON RECORD AS AIDING AND AETTING FELONIES Ranking member Sen Schumer dismissed Grassley's proposal. "When people are living in undocumented status, there are times, I suppose, when they've made up identities, made up Social Security numbers," Schumer told his Judiciary Committee colleagues. "How are they going to remember all that, and are we going to delay RPI status? "(The) purpose of this bill is to bring people out of the shadows. We all know when they lived in the shadows, they had to forge documents, forge Social Security numbers, et cetera. I just don't see how, when you've lived here 10 years, and you've had many different identities, many different numbers, you're going to remember them all," said Schumer.

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The Senate Judiciary committee defeated Grassley's amendment 8 to 10 on a party-line vote.

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ACTION ALERT Freepers should mobolize locally--get grand juries to begin indicting these Senators for FAILING TO UPHOLD THE LAW AGAINST FELONIES. A few convictions and imprisonment oughta wake up the treasonous Congress. KEEP IN MIND---those elected to office are held to a higher standard of law than we peons....but have never been held to account.

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Majority members----Senate Judiciary Committee Hearing Room
226 Dirksen Senate Office Building Washington, DC:

Patrick Leahy, Dem-Vermont, Chairman
Dianne Feinstein, Dem-California
Chuck Schumer, Dem-New York, ranking member
Dick Durbin, Dem-Illinois
Sheldon Whitehouse, Dem-Rhode Island
Amy Klobuchar, Dem-Minnesota
Al Franken, Dem- Minnesota
Chris Coons,Dem- Delaware
Richard Blumenthal, Dem- Connecticut
Mazie Hirono, Dm-Hawaii

Source: 2013 Congressional Record, Vol. 159, Page S296 to 297

49 posted on 06/30/2013 4:54:47 AM PDT by Liz
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To: sickoflibs; AuntB; TADSLOS; Tennessee Nana; GOPJ; hoosiermama; thouworm; no-to-illegals; ...
I'd like to see Jay Sekulow's legal group take on immigration reform on these principles:

WIKI Involuntary servitude is a United States legal and constitutional term for a person laboring against that person's will to benefit another, under some form of coercion other than the worker's financial needs. While laboring to benefit another occurs also in the condition of slavery, involuntary servitude does not necessarily connote the complete lack of freedom experienced in chattel slavery; involuntary servitude may also refer to other forms of unfree labor. Involuntary servitude is not dependent upon compensation or its amount.

The Thirteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution makes involuntary servitude illegal under any U.S. jurisdiction whether at the hands of the U.S. government or in the private sphere, except as punishment for a crime: "Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction."

--snip--

50 posted on 06/30/2013 5:02:48 AM PDT by Liz
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To: ziravan

The GOP-e is patting themselves on the back for saving the Republican Party from both demographics and their own base.

Indeed, the reverse will happened. Amnesty will prove to be the breaking point of the GOP. The problem with “where else do conservatives have to go” is that eventually, it no longer matters just so long as its no longer here. We’ve arrived at that point. Thank you, Marco: I mean that. You destroyed the Republican Party and eventually, we’ll all be better as a result.


Exactly. I have no desire to be a serf on a corportist plantation. Rubio, Ryan and the rest of the beltway GOP who support amnesty and trampling our constitutional rights can GTH. I voted for them both and feel this is nothing short of a brazen betrayal. I am done.

The GOP “leadership” has fumbled this badly. Amnesty goes over like a lead balloon in the white male demo. Without them there basically is no GOP. It will take many years to replace those WM base voters who walk. The GOP is done for decades.


51 posted on 06/30/2013 1:13:04 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: sickoflibs

Hey give him a break! He has no choice but to fund his show with constant horribly repetitive product pitches and radio commercials that make you want to poke out your eardrums with spaghetti sticks.


52 posted on 06/30/2013 10:52:06 PM PDT by Impy (Bring back the spoils system.)
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