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After Gang of Eight, a new conservative message: Won’t get fooled again Go To Hell GOP

1 posted on 06/29/2013 7:12:27 PM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

While chasing 2% or 3% more Hispanic votes, these clueless wonders will drive away at least 20% of the conservative base. They will not win without the Right.


2 posted on 06/29/2013 7:16:52 PM PDT by txrefugee
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3 posted on 06/29/2013 7:18:07 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: markomalley

Of course we’ll be fooled again because the system’s broken.


4 posted on 06/29/2013 7:19:56 PM PDT by 867V309
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To: markomalley

The Republican party is nothing more then Marxist Lite.
America, the USSA, is finished.


5 posted on 06/29/2013 7:20:41 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: markomalley

What’s the over/under on another Congressional sell out?


6 posted on 06/29/2013 7:22:39 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: markomalley

How many times have we heard this?

I say the odds are about fifty to one that the house will end up passing an immigration bill that will go into conference with the senate bill.

The compromise will basically be everything in the senate bill.

O’Bozo will sign it into alw with much fanfare just in time to give democrats a big boost in the 2014 elections.


8 posted on 06/29/2013 7:28:54 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Rubio's New Book: From Nobody To Senator, To Conservative savior, Then Back To Nobody")
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“It (securing the border) is a top priority with me.” Then Paul Ryan goes on to admit that legalization is actually his ‘top priority.’
Here’s something new: preemptive lying.


10 posted on 06/29/2013 7:30:18 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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I find it interesting that all these RINO’s that love the illegals so much let Romney destroy Perry with the issue in the debates. Yet now nearly all of them (including Romney) are far FAR more to the left of Perry.


11 posted on 06/29/2013 7:31:09 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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My dear FRiends.

May I introduce a new term?

DeRubiofication

Ryan favors the same legalization-first sequence for immigration reform that Rubio and the Gang did. The difference is that now, more conservatives are aware of the basics of reform proposals. And that means Ryan might be in for a rougher ride with the conservative base than Rubio experienced.

Someone I once mistakenly admired, Ryan, must be "DeRubiofied" in the forthcoming primary election, just as Mister Rubio must in 2016. An alternative, conservative (and squeaky clean) conservative must be found and run against the (alleged) GOP incumbent. Ideally, a veteran.

We must remove RINOS and wobblies from the GOP via the primary process. (We voters must show them the strength that they so sadly lack.)

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12 posted on 06/29/2013 7:32:11 PM PDT by Seaplaner (Never give in. Never give in. Never...except to convictions of honour and good sense. W. Churchill)
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Which laws do I get to ignore?


13 posted on 06/29/2013 7:34:26 PM PDT by gusopol3
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Here’s an interesting analysis of Sen Rubio’s claims:

http://www.cis.org/rubio-deceptive-amnesty-ad


15 posted on 06/29/2013 7:35:55 PM PDT by buridan
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To: markomalley

To be honest, I didn’t see a lot of people who were fooled about it. Let’s face it, if anyone was fooled by that this time, they’re going to get fooled again, no doubt about it.


16 posted on 06/29/2013 7:37:22 PM PDT by rlmorel (Silence: The New Hate Speech)
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We need a new Party: one that voluntarily commits to term limits. Citizens with conscience can say “No and HELL, NO!!!” Enough with the professional political class.


17 posted on 06/29/2013 7:38:32 PM PDT by SC_Pete
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The writing was on the wall with Marco Rubio.


Neither Rubio Nor His Amnesty Plan Is Conservative - 22 May 2013
Rubio's amnesty plan is debunked for the sham that it is.
Marco Rubio Would Expand "Liberal International Order" - 18 February 2013
Marco Rubio demands more U.S. "leadership" in a growing "liberal international order."
Amnesty: More Proof That Rubio is No Conservative - 31 January 2013
Rubio's position on immigration is more proof that he is no different than John McCain or Lindsey Graham.
Marco Rubio: No Conservative - 11 January 2013
It is shown that from his positions on various issues, Marco Rubio is just as much a proponent of Big Government as any other establishment politician.
Despite Minor Differences, Romney and Rubio Look to UN For Syrian Policy - 03 August 2012
Mitt Romney and possible running mate Marco Rubio disagree on a few points with regard to Syria, but both look to the UN for cues on Syrian policy.
Are Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal Natural-born Citizens? - 29 July 2012
There is significant evidence that neither Marco Rubio nor Bobby Jindal is a natural born citizen as required of President by the Constitution.
Rubio Embraces Interventionist Foreign Policy - 30 April 2012
In Wednesday's speech at the Brookings Institution, Sen. Marco Rubio made it clear he would pose no threat to the interventionist foreign policy of both political parties.

20 posted on 06/29/2013 7:41:51 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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Ryan is not a constitutional conservative. He’s a card-carrying member of the cheap labor party. I hope he’s primaried.


21 posted on 06/29/2013 7:44:36 PM PDT by grania
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The illegals came across the border under their own power. They can go back the same way, and will if employment opportunities dry up.

Strong employer penalties for hiring illegals (fines and incarceration) would eliminate opportunities for illegals to work. This also would increase employment opportunities for welfare queens, chronic unemployed and others sucking on the government teat.


22 posted on 06/29/2013 7:44:45 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
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The illegals came across the border under their own power. They can go back the same way, and will if employment opportunities dry up.

Strong employer penalties for hiring illegals (fines and incarceration) would eliminate opportunities for illegals to work. This also would increase employment opportunities for welfare queens, chronic unemployed and others sucking on the government teat.


23 posted on 06/29/2013 7:44:46 PM PDT by Joe Bfstplk
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They push this through, I am done with them. Let the party implode if they succeed granting legal status to a person who is here by breaking the law and overstaying a visa. You or I would not be allowed to remain in another country under those circumstances. A new resistance will form from the grassroots. They are Not going to change political directions, I don’t see it. Like Rubio, they are beholding to the rich club guys who pour money into the party for returns of getting what they want. Wealthier mass more riches; the working family will be like re-living the Carter days/struggling for work, tho only worse. Imo.


24 posted on 06/29/2013 7:46:07 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: markomalley; Liz; cripplecreek; Tennessee Nana; TADSLOS; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Gilbo_3; ...
RE :” Many conservatives gave Sen. Marco Rubio the benefit of the doubt when he said securing the border first was a top priority for the Gang of Eight comprehensive immigration reform effort. Later, when those conservatives realized that Rubio’s plan would first legalize the country’s estimated 11 million illegal immigrants, and only then put new border security measures in place, they expressed deep disappointment and disillusionment.
Now the Gang bill has passed the Senate and immigration is the work of the House, where former vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan is a leading reform advocate. Ryan favors the same legalization-first sequence for immigration reform that Rubio and the Gang did. The difference is that now, more conservatives are aware of the basics of reform proposals. And that means Ryan might be in for a rougher ride with the conservative base than Rubio experienced”
,,,,”Well, look, they can’t get — what a person would want to have, is they would come out of the shadows, they’d get put on probation, they’d pay taxes, pay fines, learn English, learn civics. “

What taxes will they be paying Ryan?? The EITC?

What good does it do to have them paying payroll/entitlement taxes if they get the money back in EITC and then later get the entitlements too?

Immediate probational legalization wouldn't be bad if it came with the condition that they REALLY pay (income) taxes and don't get ANY handouts. If it required them to be part of the 53%. Many wouldn't come forward in that case, which is why the Senate bill has all those loopholes. We could use some more taxpayers.

25 posted on 06/29/2013 7:50:27 PM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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Despite that “people for a conservative direction” disinformation ad that’s been circulating on the TV and radio, I don’t think any informed and principled conservatives were fooled by the Gang of Eight.


26 posted on 06/29/2013 7:50:43 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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