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Who Helped Snowden Steal State Secrets? (Read all)
WSJ ^ | June 29, 2013 | Edward Jay Epstein

Posted on 06/29/2013 8:08:28 AM PDT by yoe

In March 2013, when Edward Snowden sought a job with Booz Allen Hamilton at a National Security Agency facility in Hawaii, he signed the requisite classified-information agreements and would have been made well aware of the law regarding communications intelligence.

Section 798 of the United States Code makes it a federal crime if a person "knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States" any classified information concerning communication intelligence.

[snip] Before taking the job in Hawaii, Mr. Snowden was in contact with people who would later help arrange the publication of the material he purloined. Two of these individuals, filmmaker Laura Poitras and Guardian blogger Glenn Greenwald, were on the Board of the Freedom of the Press Foundation that, among other things, funds WikiLeaks.

[snip] Mr. Greenwald and Ms. Poitras also flew to Hong Kong. They were later joined by Sarah Harrison, a WikiLeaks representative who works closely with Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder. Mr. Snowden reportedly brought the misappropriated data to Hong Kong on four laptops and a thumb drive.

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To: GOPJ

“I’m guessing he also got help within the NSA...”

That’s the important part of the story. The outside help he got from Wikileaks associated people may be interesting from the point of view of possible legal actions against them, but that he was getting that help doesn’t tell us much. Based on no knowledge of how things works, it surprises me that a guy could be applying for a job in March, get hired, and be in a position to access deeply secret stuff by early June. Even if he had the requisite clearances from his former employment, and even if he couldn’t do his technical maintenance work without access to the secrets, should he be trusted so soon by his employer not to appropriate the files? In other words, why wasn’t somebody watching him? I’d like to know who greased the skids for him to get the job.


21 posted on 06/29/2013 9:31:08 AM PDT by Stirner
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To: TigersEye

There are thousands of Chinese spies in America, both in government and the private sector.

They do not “go public”. That is not the purpose of a spy; they simply bring information back to their handlers and you never know about them unless they are one of the very few that are caught.

Snowden going public tells us that he is not spying for another country. See my other post for what is going on. Note that Snowden may have been operating for wikileaks or he may be an independent whistleblower who simply chose to use wikileaks to go public. Snowden saw the treatment of William Binney and others and knew that he could not go public here in America, the stories would simply not be carried in the captive US press.


22 posted on 06/29/2013 9:36:36 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Those are the lamest excuses I’ve ever heard floated.


23 posted on 06/29/2013 9:38:03 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: TigersEye

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3vZNSAi-QM


24 posted on 06/29/2013 9:45:56 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: bgill
Who did he request the encrytion key for the film maker from?

Skype.

The software that they install on your PC generates a public/private key pair and sends the public key back to Skype where they sign it creating digital certificate which verifies your identity. The private key never leaves your computer. The digital certificate with public key is available to anyone. The private key is very difficult to guess, probably beyond modern computers unless there is a specific flaw in the algorithm or backdoor in the software.

Thereafter every call is encrypted with a session key (essentially unbreakable AES 256) which is generated by the caller's software and shared securely using the public and private keys of the caller and callee. The caller's and callee's identities are verified at the same time. Even if the AES key is broken it only reveals that one session. That key is not escrowed or saved or made available to anyone other than the caller and callee (again with the caveat that there can be no flaws in the algorithm or backdoors in the SW).

25 posted on 06/29/2013 10:02:57 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Don Corleone

.....there is evidence of exactly what you speak of and it is happening NOW and more and more each day. One small example: A relative of mine is involved in some litigation in San Bernardino, California. San Bernardino, one of many homes around the U.S. for starkly over-paid public employees, cannot pay it’s bills and is either in bankruptcy or headed there.

Anyway, they have reportedly had to shut down a sizeable percentage of their civil courts due to no money leaving the remaining courts grossly over-worked and under staffed. In our case, this means you get a very short time in front of a judge at hearings and proceedings and follow on hearings are set months down the road.

In breaks (lunch), courtroom employees were asking us dead serious questions about housing costs and living costs in Texas with one stating she was moving as soon as she could.

Another observation I made was that on a Sunday afternoon, Palm Springs/Desert Springs Streets were just deserted. You could hardly see one vehicle of any kind up and down six lane avenues. Hmmm???? Meanwhile, back home, we have traffic jams and construction projects on every corner.


26 posted on 06/29/2013 10:03:23 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: TigersEye

No, a spy going public, then going back to the country they are spying for to deliver secrets to them.

That’s lame.


27 posted on 06/29/2013 10:10:57 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen
C) They never mention the financial oligarch masters who have their minions throughout senior intelligence positions, as well as the leadership of BOTH political parties.

Theorize much?

D) Some conservatives will knee-jerk support the government, refusing to believe that strong spying capability is bad. Conservatives who oppose the revelations thus fall right into the trap the financial oligarchs set for them, and...

Yep, all of FR fell right into the trap /sarc

G) Of course the smart response is to simply make note of any factual information that comes out. Then research beyond that simple information to tie it to the financial oligarchy. Then publicly expose the financial oligarchy - and as much of their dastardly operations as possible - as far and wide as possible...

The catch is that the all-powerful oligarchy will have anticipated your pathetic attempts to out them and immediately crush you like a bug. Maybe ignore you. Or use any one of 1000 techniques to discredit you; one of the main ones being the planting of information in your name or associated with you that makes you look like a lunatic.

28 posted on 06/29/2013 10:21:22 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: PieterCasparzen

And treasonous.


29 posted on 06/29/2013 10:25:34 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: SueRae

Back in the day, anyone observed on a rooftop, near a firefight, holding something on their shoulder, would be ID’ed as a sniper and dealt with accordingly. Just another example of how today’s overly-cautious rules of engagement are getting our troops killed.

Someone in the 162nd—or a overhead Apache gunship—could have done everyone a big favor back in 2004.


30 posted on 06/29/2013 11:10:17 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: Cen-Tejas

While I welcome any conservatives to Texas, I do NOT relish the thought of a bunch of liberal Californians moving here and messing up our state just like they messed up theirs.


31 posted on 06/29/2013 11:14:33 AM PDT by boxlunch (Deuteronomy 28,29,30)
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To: Stirner

Wikileaks has that whiff of useful idiot... attractive - young - doing stuff waaaaay past their pay grades... As far as ‘help’ within NSA? Anyone who could pull this off has covered all tracks - 8 months - a year ago - maybe longer. I don’t know anything about this - just guessing.


32 posted on 06/29/2013 12:51:14 PM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: SueRae
One of the soldiers on patrol that day stated he hoped Poitras “was dead in a hole right now” for her collaboration with the insurgents.

The left loves flipping 'words' in political ways. You're using 'collaboration' in the traditional way... which we all understand. But leftists have made this into one of the new 'cool' words... and they're exploiting it politically...

33 posted on 06/29/2013 1:06:54 PM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: TigersEye
And treasonous.

You betcha. Ignoring the crimes of an outlaw government is treasonous to the people.

34 posted on 06/29/2013 1:15:59 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: TigersEye

So William Binney is a traitor too ?


35 posted on 06/29/2013 1:22:06 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Never heard of him so that point was pointless. You are consistent that way.


36 posted on 06/29/2013 1:23:32 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: justa-hairyape

Outlaw government not withstanding taking secrets to the ChiComs is still treason. If you don’t think so you’re on the wrong site.


37 posted on 06/29/2013 1:25:06 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: palmer
C) They never mention the financial oligarch masters who have their minions throughout senior intelligence positions, as well as the leadership of BOTH political parties.

Theorize much?


Yes, but I've also found some key things that have happened in history that are simple facts, and the facts make our fake US history obvious. These facts, however, are uncomfortable for Republican lackeys, so they will never discuss things like the Dulles brothers, Sullivan and Cromwell, CIA operations at Rockefeller Center during WWII, etc. They live in a fairyland where American financial dynasties are blissfully disconnected from the CIA leadership, and the major philanthropic foundations and international organizations are exactly what their thin veneer of PR says they are. After seeing enough movies, I guess even Congressional testimony is seen as a conspiracy theory.

If you'd like a real "conspiracy theory", I mean, it's "way out there", you'll love it it's so funny, just find a copy of this online:

Joint Hearing
Before the
Select Committee on Intelligence
and the
Subcommittee on Health and Scientific Research
of the
Committee on Human Resources United States Senate
Ninety-fifth Congress
First Session
August 3, 1977

It's funny stuff, hilarious. You won't be able to discern what's behind it without some other documents, but just for the humor value it makes good reading.

Yep, all of FR fell right into the trap /sarc

Not everyone at FR agrees with NSA domestic spying, and not everyone at FR thinks that Snowden is any more significant than William Binney. And of course, the anti-Snowdenites religiously refuse to speak of William Binney. Because he released a ton more than Snowden did and was a 30-year veteran, high-level NSA employee. Republican lackeys just keep screaming, screaming, screaming, pitchforks in hand, Snowden ! Snowden ! Snowden ! Snowden ! Snowden ! It's like North Korea trains our Republican operatives. Keep chanting and smiling ! Go, go, go, yeeeaaaaa Republicans ! Woo-hoo !!!! Let's spam social media with kiw da wabbit, I mean, Snowden !

The catch is that the all-powerful oligarchy will have anticipated your pathetic attempts to out them and immediately crush you like a bug. Maybe ignore you. Or use any one of 1000 techniques to discredit you; one of the main ones being the planting of information in your name or associated with you that makes you look like a lunatic.

That's exactly why everyone should read for themselves and sort out what comes from source documents (like contemporaneous printed news articles, Congressional testimony, corporate filings, etc.) and what doesn't - because the writings of researchers usually have a lot of guesses or outright disinformation in them, mixed in with references to original sources.

Without certain information, talk of large financial conspiracy seems ludicrous, it did to me until not long ago when I came across various pieces of information.

A good starting point to get a handle on where we are today with study of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Peabody; of course, that's only a Wikipedia article, one would want to dig for a lot more information on him. While researching, keep in mind to seek the truth, be skeptical of everything, and dig until you find out what was really going on. One needs to have a basic but firm understanding of business finance, i.e., balance sheets, income statement, risk, bankruptcy law, banking and finance, etc., otherwise one will never see the truth. You will come across all sorts of crazy info that's wacky, way off; just filter it and keep gathering what basic, simple facts you can. Eventually a picture will start to develop.

Antony Sutton's works are essential to get a quick overview of some basic facts that don't add up in our public-school-taught fantasy history.
38 posted on 06/29/2013 2:29:37 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: TigersEye

You’re unable to search for things on the internet ?


39 posted on 06/29/2013 2:32:29 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: TigersEye
Outlaw government not withstanding taking secrets to the ChiComs is still treason. If you don’t think so you’re on the wrong site.

So you should like William Binney - he did not take secrets to the ChiComs.

He went through proper channels.
40 posted on 06/29/2013 2:34:08 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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