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Who Helped Snowden Steal State Secrets? (Read all)
WSJ ^ | June 29, 2013 | Edward Jay Epstein

Posted on 06/29/2013 8:08:28 AM PDT by yoe

In March 2013, when Edward Snowden sought a job with Booz Allen Hamilton at a National Security Agency facility in Hawaii, he signed the requisite classified-information agreements and would have been made well aware of the law regarding communications intelligence.

Section 798 of the United States Code makes it a federal crime if a person "knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States" any classified information concerning communication intelligence.

[snip] Before taking the job in Hawaii, Mr. Snowden was in contact with people who would later help arrange the publication of the material he purloined. Two of these individuals, filmmaker Laura Poitras and Guardian blogger Glenn Greenwald, were on the Board of the Freedom of the Press Foundation that, among other things, funds WikiLeaks.

[snip] Mr. Greenwald and Ms. Poitras also flew to Hong Kong. They were later joined by Sarah Harrison, a WikiLeaks representative who works closely with Julian Assange, the WikiLeaks founder. Mr. Snowden reportedly brought the misappropriated data to Hong Kong on four laptops and a thumb drive.

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The rest is history. America's Bureaucracy will implode under its own weight and non-sustainable - one half the size would still be too big and still unnecessary!
1 posted on 06/29/2013 8:08:28 AM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe

Who helped Snowden steal State Secrets?
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Ummm? An incompetent, corrupt US government? /shrug


2 posted on 06/29/2013 8:14:51 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: yoe

Susan Rice just said it was because of film ,well when they find the right film


3 posted on 06/29/2013 8:15:54 AM PDT by molson209
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I’d bet WikiLeaks frequents computer nerd chatboards, looking for people like Snowden who are ripe for the picking.


4 posted on 06/29/2013 8:16:47 AM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: yoe

Ours has become a nation where the state can have secrets...

Citizens can’t.


5 posted on 06/29/2013 8:20:56 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Breaking News: Hillary not running in 2016. Brain tumor found during recent colonoscopy...)
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Who did he request the encrytion key for the film maker from?

Whatever, the NSA needed outted. The signers of the Declaration of Independence never invisioned this.


6 posted on 06/29/2013 8:24:37 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Irenic
Airfares, hotel bills and other expenses over this period had to be paid. A safe house had to be secured in Hong Kong. Lawyers had to be retained, and safe passage to Moscow—a trip on which Mr. Snowden was accompanied by WikiLeaks' Sarah Harrison—had to be organized.

Snowden's demeanor was all wrong too... the words were right - maybe focus group tested - but his attitude was cock-sure arrogance - didn't match the words. I'm guessing he also got help within the NSA...

7 posted on 06/29/2013 8:25:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: yoe

Where does the money come from? I Googled the Freedom of the Press Foundation and didn’t see any real money sources. The hot chick on the board is in a relationship with Miles Obrien with PBS, though.


8 posted on 06/29/2013 8:29:36 AM PDT by Thebaddog (I'm a cracker! Sucka.)
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To: yoe

Section 798 of the United States Code makes it a federal crime if a person “knowingly and willfully communicates, furnishes, transmits, or otherwise makes available to an unauthorized person, or publishes, or uses in any manner prejudicial to the safety or interest of the United States” any classified information concerning communication intelligence.

Fortunatly for Snowden, alerting US Citizens that their Government is acting in an illegal manner, against the Citizens best interest, is not a crime under this section 798


9 posted on 06/29/2013 8:39:46 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: CaptainK

Anonymous had project Mayhem 2012. They were also supposed to have a project Tyler. Some have also said Anonymous is CIA. I don’t know but sometimes it is interesting digging around and reading all the different stuff. I still find the story surrounding a kid arrested in Illinois for hacking Starfor very interesting. He said he was working with NOI (nation of islam) to take over the United States. He told this to his Texas Tea Party mother.

Anonymous Project Mayhem 2012 | Leak it ALL! Call to Action
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hB-KNRhNYuQ


10 posted on 06/29/2013 8:42:17 AM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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We have no reports on Snowdens true location.
You would think some traveller at the Russia airport would snap a picture of Snowden.

Does Snowden have a technique to camoflauge his communications and location from the NSA??

That technology belongs to US Citizens


11 posted on 06/29/2013 8:42:57 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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Treasonous, should be on trial for accessory to murder....from Wikipedia page on traitor Poitras...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Poitras

November 2004 Baghdad Ambush[edit]

On November 20, 2004, elements of the 2nd battalion 162nd infantry regiment were ambushed while on patrol in Baghdad. A man and a woman were seen on a roof of a nearby building filming the patrol shortly before and during the ambush. Soldiers identified the female as Poitras and the man as Doctor Riyadh Al Adhadh. When question by Lt. Col. Dan Hendrickson, the 2nd battalion’s brigade commander, Poitras denied that she had any foreknowledge of the ambush and denied that she was son the roof filming it. Poitras had contacts with the 2nd Bn 162nd IR including it command. Brigade commander Lt. Col. Dan Hendrickson gave Poitras the benefit of the doubt but said had the identification been 100% he would have detained Poitras and turned her over for prosecution. In January 2006, Poitras emailed author John R. Bruning and admitted to him that she had in fact been on the roof filming the attack and was aware of the planned ambush. One of the soldiers on patrol that day stated he hoped Poitras “was dead in a hole right now” for her collaboration with the insurgents.[10


12 posted on 06/29/2013 8:44:27 AM PDT by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: yoe

13 posted on 06/29/2013 8:46:25 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: Steven Tyler
Fortunatly for Snowden, alerting US Citizens that their Government is acting in an illegal manner, against the Citizens best interest, is not a crime under this section 798

That went out the window when he went to China. If he told the ChiComs what brand of cigarettes his boss smokes he should be hung.

14 posted on 06/29/2013 8:47:05 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: yoe

Would The Founders approve of Echelon/Prism...? Not in a million years.


15 posted on 06/29/2013 8:49:02 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: yoe
The rest is history. America's Bureaucracy will implode under its own weight and non-sustainable - one half the size would still be too big and still unnecessary!

It is what caused the demise of several Chinese dynasties. Too big government just consumed itself with personal avarice and mistrust.

16 posted on 06/29/2013 8:55:55 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: TigersEye

I hope we find out the truth. The necessary outcome depends on the facts to be revealed.

If Snowden tells the ChiComs how to spy on US Citizens, then hang him high, or send in a drone.

If Snowden demonstrates how the US Gov’t is abusing its Citizens, we need to downsize that criminal Government, and imprison the corrupted thugs.

If Snowden can demonstrate how a political party has corrupted an election (IRS Scandal), We the Citizens need to know so we can reverse the laws they passed.


17 posted on 06/29/2013 9:13:23 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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Fair enough. I'd hang him just for setting foot on ChiCom soil under the
circumstances ... but I probably shouldn't be in charge of such decisions. ;^)
18 posted on 06/29/2013 9:18:56 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: yoe

The financial oligarchy wants conservatives to support NSA and any other government agency spying on American citizens.

One fundamental tactic of the financial oligarchy is to “get out in front of bad stories”. This is to be able to control the story.

The Dulles brothers and the others who set up the CIA were all financial oligarchy operatives, so yes, the CIA is their tool. It’s controlled from the top, so few people in the CIA need to know about it’s true purposes.

We have the benefit of history to see that in Russia and China and other totalitarian states, having a secret police with detailed files on all citizens is essential to maintaining control over an enslaved population. The oligarchs are very slowly, step by step over the last 50 years, working towards getting public acceptance of such a secret police in America.

Due to the “getting in front of the story and controlling it” tactic, some groups who purport to oppose the police state are actually working for the financial oligarchs to establish it.

Wikileaks and associated efforts are part of the oligarchs’ typical plan to “get out in front of opposition and control it”.

A) Such efforts as Wikileaks, Manning, Snowden, etc., draw those who oppose the police state out into the open. They divulge a little bit of the police state or the corrupted “captured state”, but only information that implicates the current government regime. Some people will admit to themselves that the information represents the beginnings of a police state and get angry and speak out. Thus, they become publicly known and thus specific individuals who might form an opposition can be identified by the police state.

B) The whistleblowers blame the police state mechanisms, like NSA spying, generically on “the government”. This is a key part of the tactic - it is simply blamed on “the government” in public news releases and when talking to moderates, independents and conservatives.

C) They never mention the financial oligarch masters who have their minions throughout senior intelligence positions, as well as the leadership of BOTH political parties.

D) Some conservatives will knee-jerk support the government, refusing to believe that strong spying capability is bad. Conservatives who oppose the revelations thus fall right into the trap the financial oligarchs set for them, and give Democrats, Socialists, Communists, etc., the whole left wing, the perfect scenario in which to blame the ENTIRE POLICE STATE mechanism squarely on Republicans, conservatives, George Bush, etc. These conservative supporters of the spying can then recorded as not being a threat to the police state.

E) When talking to leftists, it’s a perfect opportunity (that they take) to blame conservatives, saying they want a “fascist” police state.

F) Being dedicated die-hards, leftist rank-and-file simply stick their head in the sand whenever the thought of a left-leaning President continuing to increase the police state mechanisms. This is no surprise, because in every totalitarian state of history, that’s what leftists have always done, then they groaned for generations under the jackboot of totalitarianism, always blaming the particular leader for “personal excesses” and somehow never giving up on their left-wing godless philosophy.

G) Of course the smart response is to simply make note of any factual information that comes out. Then research beyond that simple information to tie it to the financial oligarchy. Then publicly expose the financial oligarchy - and as much of their dastardly operations as possible - as far and wide as possible. Do not let them get away with the lie of omission of the financial oligarchy from the story.


19 posted on 06/29/2013 9:29:12 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: molson209; yoe; Irenic; CaptainK; don-o

20 posted on 06/29/2013 9:30:36 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (When you see a fork in the road, take it. - Yogi Berra)
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