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Zimmerman trial judge openly assisting prosecution--can she do this?

Posted on 06/28/2013 9:11:39 AM PDT by IChing

Just before the break, the prosecution objected to a question asked of the witness by the defense. The judge overruled, but also told them it was the wrong objection, signaling to them to try another! Can she even do this, legally? They did try another, but it wasn't the one she was looking for.


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To: IChing

It’s a kangaroo court and a guilty verdict was already reached a year ago.


41 posted on 06/28/2013 10:45:21 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: enraged

I’ve been watching from opening statements, she’s definitely given the defense a hard time of it all along.


42 posted on 06/28/2013 10:47:58 AM PDT by IChing
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To: deport

Yes, next they will charge him with federal violations of the Melanin Supremacy Act, for having a European last name and for trying to do something about the plague of crime done by young blacks in his neighborhood.


43 posted on 06/28/2013 10:56:35 AM PDT by IChing
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

They already did. And got at least a million, to my knowledge.


44 posted on 06/28/2013 11:00:02 AM PDT by IChing
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To: cymbeline

I didnt know the prosecution could appeal a not-guilty verdict.


45 posted on 06/28/2013 11:00:04 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: bgill

One honest juror can spoil their party, pending retrial of course. Failing that, defense can appeal.


46 posted on 06/28/2013 11:06:33 AM PDT by IChing
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To: driftdiver

They can’t.


47 posted on 06/28/2013 11:07:20 AM PDT by IChing
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To: cymbeline

You’re right about that. In my first jury trial in federal court before a much-feared judge, I was surprised that he sustained almost all of my objections.
I thought this stuff was easy, and that I am like Perry Mason.
Then, I lost the case, big time; my client had to pay attorney’s fees, too.
When I got the trial transcript back to prepare an appeal, I found I had no decent basis because, in part, the judge had sustained my objections.
I spoke one on one with the judge years later, and although he didn’t recall the trial, he said he does it all the time when he is pretty certain of the outcome from the get go.
As to whether a judge can tell an attorney what might be a legal question, the answer is “yes.”
Anyway, from what I have seen, the judge is being fair to both sides. But, I could stand corrected on that as I have not watched too much.
Most judges, especially experienced trial judges, are pretty damn smart.


48 posted on 06/28/2013 11:08:40 AM PDT by BIV (typical white person)
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To: Impala64ssa

“You’re out of order! You’re out of order! The whole trial is out of order! They’re out of order!”

Another classic line by Pacino from AJFA.


49 posted on 06/28/2013 11:23:02 AM PDT by princeofdarkness (The GOP is the present version of 1940 France and it will only get worse.)
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To: IChing

Thanks for the information.


50 posted on 06/28/2013 11:37:10 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: IChing

I’m pretty sure judges have a lot of latitude on this


51 posted on 06/28/2013 11:37:12 AM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: IChing

I’m not a lawyer , but I know enough to see the prosecution is completely inept here ... Judges are expected to give pro-se defendants a little leeway at least in civil ,, professionals should be left to their own abilities. The Governor has his men there cheerleading and fighting to influence the judge... probably a factor here.

That said the question was “can they do that” ,, the answer MUST BE ... YES ,, because that is what we are observing... a better question is .. Does this give grounds for a mistrial or a sanction of some kind? and ... Did the defense object?


52 posted on 06/28/2013 12:24:26 PM PDT by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: Hattie

Yep. Judges can even make rulings on questions and answers even when not asked to by an objecting attorney.


53 posted on 06/28/2013 12:43:26 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: IChing

I’ve seen it done.


54 posted on 06/28/2013 12:50:07 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: IChing

I would love the defense attorney to say “Your Honor, if you want to advise the Prosecution, why not just tell them what objection you’d like them to raise?”


55 posted on 06/28/2013 12:52:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

That or “Objection your Honor, the Judge is acting as counsel to the defense.”


56 posted on 06/28/2013 12:54:16 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

O’Mara and West have been patient saints


57 posted on 06/28/2013 12:56:09 PM PDT by IChing
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To: rarestia

Eventually grownups get tired of disrespectful tantrum throwing children and do something about it.


58 posted on 06/28/2013 12:57:27 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I would love the defense attorney to say “Your Honor, if you want to advise the Prosecution, why not just tell them what objection you’d like them to raise?”


And if I were the judge, I’d advise: “Counsel, my job is to see that the rules are followed. If you think a rule is broken, just pipe up. But don’t think for a minute that I’m gonna let lawyers break the rules in my courtroom, just because opposing counsel don’t notice it, or make the right objection. Your job isn’t to be smarter than opposing counsel so you can get away with breaking the rules. Your job is to follow the rules. Now sit down and hope you’re competent enough that I don’t have to help out your sorry ass every now and then.”


59 posted on 06/28/2013 12:58:22 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Universal Background Check -> Registration -> Confiscation -> Oppression -> Extermination)
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To: cymbeline

I don’t think the state can appeal an innocent verdict.
Double jeopardy and all.


60 posted on 06/28/2013 12:58:25 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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