IRS Could Revoke Non-Profit Status for Religious Institutions over Same-Sex Marriage

Andrew Brietbart's Big Government ^ | 26 Jun 2013, 11:31 PDT | Ben Shapiro

[GeronL]

home churches will boom

[babyfreep]

“The only thing that would stop them is that they would have to do it to mosques as well.”

See Obamacare exemptions.

That's no lie. We've been shown that this "administration" can and will do just about anything it wants to with little regard for congress or the people. And when congress does put some brakes on his fundamental changes, he finds some other way to circumvent.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Is that your wife?

[Brown Deer]

No, fortunately I’m not married to you.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

So you’re “transgendered.” That explains a lot.

[cva66snipe]

There are other alternative, some of which have been expressed on this thread: abolish the IRS, go to a flat tax, a sales tax, rescind Johnson’s legislation etc.

Hey I'm 100% all for it. But till then? Churches need to get out from underneath the NPO law Yoke ASAP. Remember this also. Government used NPO to put church ran hospitals either out of business or into compliance with government {LIBERALS} mandates violating the churches doctrines and conscience. All part of the plan for the takeover and establishment of government as lord and master of all.

I'd like to see churches and private sector take education and health care back over or as much of it as they can support. Right now Liberals are using NPO granted status as a means of their agenda enforcement.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Well, “conservative” America has been carrying on like a herd of cats. That’s how eight GOP presidential wannabes bit the dust and lukewarm, weather-vane driven Mitt got ponied up only to lose to the worst US prez evah.

THEY AIN’T LISTENING TO GOD ANY MORE. GOD DOES NOT SPEAK WITH CONFUSION.

[HiTech RedNeck]

That’s how eight GOP presidential wannabes bit the dust

make that, wannabes who would have actually handed Barack Obama his hind end.

[OneVike]

We don't need faggots/dykes in our churches, as they have chosen to violate God's and Nature's Laws.

Sorry, but you are dead wrong. Those are the exact people we need in the pews. At least in the pews of the churches that teach the truth. Then maybe they will open their eyes and see their sin for what God says it is, and ask for forgiveness.

[OneVike]

Amen, and Amen

[cva66snipe]

Well, “conservative” America has been carrying on like a herd of cats. That’s how eight GOP presidential wannabes bit the dust and lukewarm, weather-vane driven Mitt got ponied up only to lose to the worst US prez evah. THEY AIN’T LISTENING TO GOD ANY MORE. GOD DOES NOT SPEAK WITH CONFUSION.

The GOP infrastructure changed near the time of 1989 and it wasn't for the better. Some can call it what they want but I believe post-Reagan the handlers, planners, and money holders all came to an agreement of sorts to a joint power and agenda agreement. I believe they feared another Reagan possibility where Establishment handlers were not in control. What we've witnessing since 1989 has been a brokered power consolidation of the federal government into the hands of an unknown oligarchy. Party meaning simply nothing anymore as far as DEM or GOP.

Remember a rouge DEM slipped passed the Democratic Party in Corkers last race. Corker should have been embarrassed his Democratic opponent was far more Conservative in platform than he was.

[OneVike]

Because The Church can only serve one master. LBJ as a senator pushed through a bill to silence the churches political dissent in exchange for no taxes

You are wrong. The churches already had a tax exempt status. What LBJ did was slip in an amendment to the tax bill when very few were paying attention that made it illegal for entities receiving tax exempt statuses could not engage in politics.

He did so because he was facing re-election to the Senate and was being aggressively opposed by two non-profit anti-Communist groups that were attacking Johnson’s liberal agenda. In retaliation, Johnson inserted language into the IRS code that prohibited non-profits, including churches, from endorsing or opposing candidates for political office. In effect, Senator Johnson used the power of the go-along Congress and the IRS to silence his opposition

Unfortunately, religious organizations were clueless of what he had done until a few years later when the IRS began enforcing the little unknown rule he had slipped in.

However, religious organizations had been enjoying tax exempt status for well over 100 years already. read for yourself.

The History of The Johnson Amendment of 1954

[Taxman]

The Federal Income Tax fundamentally altered the relationship between the American people and their government: Prior to the passage of the 16th Amendment, the people were the master of their government; after the passage of the 16th, the people became slaves to their government.

And the situation has only got worse since 1913. And it will continue to worsen as time marches on, until we replace the income tax with the FairTax and abolish the IRS!

[Taxman]

That is well and good. Indeed, Church is a place for sinners.

HST, how many preachers preach against homosexuality”

And, how many homosexuals would attend a church wherein the preacher preached against homosexuality?

[cva66snipe]

You got me on a technicality LOL. But it did accomplish much damage and today still does. Much of the attacks on the church came from a movement brought to the U.S. in the 1930’s from Germany. It changed our government, family structure, churches, and our freedoms. Johnson's policies as POTUS increased the speed of the fall.

[Karliner]

They try and take down our pastor will we stand up then?
Damn I wish I could do something besides write and pray.
Seems to , so nothing.

[traditional1]

"We don't need faggots/dykes in our churches, as they have chosen to violate God's and Nature's Laws"

"Sorry, but you are dead wrong. Those are the exact people we need in the pews. At least in the pews of the churches that teach the truth."

Well...good luck. You want your kids exposed IN CHURCH to men kissing/hand-holding/etc., and trying to convert the Congregation to their Utopia Lifestyle, then go right ahead.

COUNSELING, YES.

Infiltrating Churches; NO!

[Springfield Reformer]

Granting your hypothetical of exclusion of church-only marriages, any marriage not conducted by an agency of the state still may be recognized through common law indicia of marriage. So while it would be tedious to not have a blanket presumption in place, specific cases already in court for other reasons (child custody, etc) would still be able to establish common law marriage.

[stonehouse01]

Government cannot be left out of marriage. Too many things involved like property, custody of children, etc...”

Government can’t be left out of divorce. Division of marital property and custody of children becomes an issue only if the marriage breaks up. Jesus taught that divorce is wrong. 1 Corinthians Chapter 7 verses 10 and 11. Government can be left out of marriage.

It’s time the churches stopped caring about their tax exempt status anyway and are free to teach the truth. The early church never worried about having to water down their doctrine over man made non profit status garbage.