I see you on every libertarian thread accusing libertarians of supporting gays. You have accused me of such an abomination.
are you a one-trick pony... or just obsessing with your own personal demons?
Posted on 06/24/2013 3:49:08 PM PDT by EveningStar
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I see you on every libertarian thread accusing libertarians of supporting gays. You have accused me of such an abomination.
are you a one-trick pony... or just obsessing with your own personal demons?
Some of them are, some of them aren’t. There is a wide variety of people going around calling themselves conservative and even larger groups of people going around calling themselves Christians.
LOL, one of those, don’t say anything, but attack the conservative personally, posts.
When you figure out a grown up response to post 3, which consisted of a single sentence, “”All code words for, libertarians and atheists largely agree on social issues and many liberal issues like open borders, gays in the military and so on.”” then post it.
Perhaps you will claim that the libertarians support conservative laws protecting marriage and keeping homosexuals out of the military since that is the conservative position.
When you can bring yourself to say something plainly, then post it, because at this point, you aren’t saying anything.
Look down your nose all you wish, but you can't use such a broad brush in any conversations about the subject. Liberty (ie: libertarian) means freedom from governmental control or license within the political spectrum.
You display all of the traits of someone obsessed with homosexual behavior. When do you come out of your closet?
Do you really need to paint everyone with the rainbow you seem to love?
In plain English, you support the libertarian position.
**“Sexual orientation, preference, gender, or gender identity should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws.**
In plain words, NO and never said I did! You continue to make claims not based upon facts, just your own personal demons.
What part of NO do you NOT understand? I do not recognize any government's ability to control behavior! It is not a role of government in a libertarian scenario. Nor, is it the role within any "conservative" scenario, no matter how much you wish to be the arbiter.
Again, you try to paint others with your own personal brush.
How is that different from this position? "Sexual orientation, should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws."?
Good luck when you stand in front of the throne of God...
Matthew 7: 7 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.
3 “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? 4 How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? 5 You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
6 “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces. ...
Rather than claim God is at your side on gay marriage, how about answering post 48?
Get out your glasses and read my posts. I did not say God is on the side of homosexual marriage. I did not claim to be on the side of homosexual anything. I did post a Scripture section that advises against being the judge and jury!
Good night. You lose... but I am confident you will still take out your brush again!
To: WVKayaker
What part of NO do you NOT understand? I do not recognize any government's ability to control behavior! It is not a role of government in a libertarian scenario.
How is that different from this position? "Sexual orientation, should have no impact on the government’s treatment of individuals, such as in current marriage, child custody, adoption, immigration or military service laws."?
48 posted on 6/24/2013 9:28:27 PM by ansel12
ansell12 wrote:
“Nice description of a conservative, but when do you face the challenge of the things that conservatives and libertarians are on the complete opposite sides from?”
‘A conservative’??? Obviously, you missed the point, that -I- was writing about ME!! Get your head out of that ‘self-internal-viewing-portal’!!!
I am against the legalization of drugs. I was in the military, and on active duty, in the middle of The Golden Triangle. If you don’t know what that is, look it up.
I am against anything ‘queer’, period.
I am against government-controlled anything, that has to do with interference in my life, period.
Between this little addenda to my other posting, did I miss anything?
If I did, I have some old friends, my nose, my gut, my intelligence with the ability to reckon things out, and lastly, how does it effect my wallet. If that isn’t enough, then, as Yoda stated a few times: “On this, I will meditate.”
HiTech RedNeck wrote:
“You’re clearly not evangelical in any sense. They want to share the love of God all around.”
Since when does “evangelical” become a character trait to define an “American”?
Well at the start of this unusual, flawed but still destined for greatness country, it did.
You think you have another, now man made formula to successfully make that country keep going, well I don’t think you do.
Anything reminding you of standard military indoctrination techniques?
You speculated that you might be libertarian, and I pointed out that you were describing conservative positions.
I also said that the interesting part would be if you try to give your positions on the things that conservatives and libertarians are completely opposite on.
So far you don’t sound like a libertarian.
ansel,
You wrote, “Libertarianism is liberalism with a twist”.
I will disagree with this because it is a blanket statement that doesn’t apply to all forms of libertarianism.
On social issues, libertarians want the government out of bedrooms, pants, personal issues, etc. I agree.
“Which do you think that we will get first, open borders, or the end to government as we know it?”
We are getting open borders shoved up our rear ends now. I’d love to end government as we know it and go back to government as the founders created.
What does that even mean? Why are you talking about pants and bedrooms?
In regards to the libertarian position on open borders, and disbanding the Border Patrol and INS, you pointed out that in exchange, libertarians offer the fantasy that they will also end welfare and social programs for the unlimited immigrants.
I asked you “”Which do you think that we will get first, open borders, or the end to government as we know it?””
You responded “”We are getting open borders shoved up our rear ends now. I’d love to end government as we know it and go back to government as the founders created.””
What does that even mean? How is that an actual, workable response to what I am talking about? I am talking about real life political activism for an immigration policy called for by the libertarians, and you respond with telling me about your wishful fantasies?
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