AT LEAST 1 DEAD IN INDIANA FERTILIZER PLANT EXPLOSION

The Blaze ^ | 6/24/13 | Jason Howerton

[ConservativeMan55]

UNION MILLS, Ind. (AP) — An explosion at a fertilizer plant in northwest Indiana has killed one person.

[Diogenesis]

Here is the data --click on the pic, then on the table--.

[Strategerist]

OK, so I presume you’re adding in the Canadian fireworks explosion.

If you are looking at ALL types of industrial explosions WORLDWIDE, then yes, three “large” ones (depending on your definition) in a few months is certainly normal.

From Wikipedia:

May 4, 1988: PEPCON disaster in Henderson, Nevada. Massive explosion at a chemical plant killed 2 people.

May 5, 1988: Norco, Louisiana, Shell Oil refinery explosion after hydrocarbon gas escaped from a corroded pipe in a catalytic cracker and was ignited. Louisiana state police evacuated 2,800 residents from nearby neighborhoods. Seven workers were killed and 42 injured. The total cost arising from the Norco blast is estimated at US$ 706 million.

July 6, 1988: Piper Alpha disaster. An explosion and resulting fire on a North Sea oil production platform kills 167 men. Total insured loss is about US$ 3.4 billion. To date it is rated as the world’s worst offshore oil disaster in terms both of lives lost and impact to industry

[SpaceBar]

I’m aware of those incidents. So exactly when will you be rubbing your chin saying “hmmm” instead of proclaiming nothing to see here folks? And exactly when will you be satisfied that they have exceeded the statistical noise?

[k4gypsyrose]

This makes the Fourth one after west, TX. If I’m wrong someone please correct me.

[thackney]

And exactly when will you be satisfied that they have exceeded the statistical noise?

When they become more frequent than normal. I work near the Houston ship channel. I work in the oil/gas/petrochem industry.

This may seem an unusual rate to you. May I politely suggest that is due more to the your past awareness, than any change in rate of explosions.

[Strategerist]

This makes the Fourth one after west, TX. If I’m wrong someone please correct me.

"one" what? Ammonium Nitrate explosion? Industrial explosion? In the US? In North America? In the world?

The key thing I'm arguing is to bound the statistical data set you are looking at and to at least have a sense of the historical norm before people start wondering about terrrorism.

[bgill]

How’s those taliban talks going?

[RummyChick]

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/24/19119164-for-second-time-in-12-hours-suspicious-object-detonated-at-indianapolis-federal-facility

For second time in 12 hours, suspicious object detonated at Indianapolis federal facility

[discostu]

The only part that’s changed is the press covering it. Most of the time these things happen and nobody outside the local community finds out because it’s not news. But then slow news months happen and the press starts reporting these small events with bloodshed (if it bleeds it leads) to fill their time. We see it all the time. Remember all those shark attacks summer of 01? Seemed like the sharks had gone crazy, except that actually shark attack numbers were down dramatically from average, they were just getting covered on CNN which they usually don’t. Same thing with train derailments winter of 02. And train derailments again a couple months ago. The press has 24/7 to fill on three different networks, whether there’s something interesting happening or not, that’s what slush piles are for.

[CivilWarBrewing]

Sorry but this is the third or fourth explosion in the last few weeks. One, three days after the Boston bombing.. Lots of 'workplace violence' going on. /s

Someone within our gov't is probably doing this.. DHS perhaps, or an agency linked to agriculture permits. Trying to slow or shut down agriculture, possibly 'Agenda 21' related.

[bgill]

Police told WTHR that fireworks and marijuana were found in the bag.

Uh, ok...

[wildbill]

one is an event. two may be a coincidence. three or more are too suspicious to be dismissed

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Someone’s 4th of July weekend just got like totally ruined, man.

[nascarnation]

I was in Sam’s Club last week, they sell fireworks here in Indiana.

There is a “weekend fun pack” which is $499 bucks, is about 5 feet high and shrink wrapped on a pallet.

Takes a forklift to load it in your vehicle.

[thackney]

three or more are too suspicious to be dismissed

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We average a couple dozen fires every day in US industrial and manufacturing facilities.

Is it really surprising that some small fraction of one percent of these result in some type of explosion, given that they handle explosive material?

[Mr. Lucky]

Not that any of the conspiracy freaks on this thread will care, but the explosion locally was said to have been in a grain bin. Grain dust (corn dust especially) is highly explosive, but the MSM could hardly pass up the opportunity to blame this accident on something that apparently wasn’t involved.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

I grew up in downstate Illinois. My uncles would always drive to Indiana or Missouri and bring back fireworks.

[gaijin]

Sounds like the BATF or FBI, sorry.

This is their M.O.

[thackney]

Ah, A Class II, Division 1, Group G Hazardous Area (inside the grain bin).

http://www.osha.gov/doc/outreachtraining/htmlfiles/hazloc.html

Harder to ignite than the Class I environments, but has killed many people and destroyed many structures over the decades.

[Strategerist]

Not that any of the conspiracy freaks on this thread will care, but the explosion locally was said to have been in a grain bin. Grain dust (corn dust especially) is highly explosive, but the MSM could hardly pass up the opportunity to blame this accident on something that apparently wasn’t involved.

Yup, a bit of investigation finds that this has NOTHING TO DO WITH FERTILIZER, but all of the media (with the sole exception of USA today) wen't with fertilizer in the headline.

Grain elevator explosions are extremely common; there was more than one a month during the 1990s.