Posted on 06/22/2013 1:09:57 PM PDT by Renfield
NSA whistleblower Russel Tice – a key source in the 2005 New York Times report that blew the lid off the Bush administration’s use of warrantless wiretapping – told Peter B. Collins on Boiling Frogs Post (the website of FBI whistleblower Sibel Edmonds):
Tice: Okay. They went after–and I know this because I had my hands literally on the paperwork for these sort of things–they went after high-ranking military officers; they went after members of Congress, both Senate and the House, especially on the intelligence committees and on the armed services committees and some of the–and judicial. But they went after other ones, too. They went after lawyers and law firms. All kinds of–heaps of lawyers and law firms. They went after judges. One of the judges is now sitting on the Supreme Court that I had his wiretap information in my hand. Two are former FISA court judges. They went after State Department officials. They went after people in the executive service that were part of the White House–their own people. They went after antiwar groups. They went after U.S. international–U.S. companies that that do international business, you know, business around the world. They went after U.S. banking firms and financial firms that do international business. They went after NGOs that–like the Red Cross, people like that that go overseas and do humanitarian work. They went after a few antiwar civil rights groups. So, you know, don’t tell me that there’s no abuse, because I’ve had this stuff in my hand and looked at it. And in some cases, I literally was involved in the technology that was going after this stuff. And you know, when I said to [former MSNBC show host Keith] Olbermann, I said, my particular thing is high tech and you know, what’s going on is the other thing, which is the dragnet. The dragnet is what Mark Klein is talking about, the terrestrial dragnet. Well my specialty is outer space. I deal with satellites, and everything that goes in and out of space. I did my spying via space. So that’s how I found out about this.
Collins: Now Russ, the targeting of the people that you just mentioned, top military leaders, members of Congress, intelligence community leaders and the–oh, I’m sorry, it was intelligence committees, let me correct that–not intelligence community, and then executive branch appointees. This creates the basis, and the potential for massive blackmail.
Tice: Absolutely! And remember we talked about that before, that I was worried that the intelligence community now has sway over what is going on. Now here’s the big one. I haven’t given you any names. This was is summer of 2004. One of the papers that I held in my hand was to wiretap a bunch of numbers associated with, with a 40-something-year-old wannabe senator from Illinois. You wouldn’t happen to know where that guy lives right now, would you? It’s a big white house in Washington, DC. That’s who they went after. And that’s the president of the United States now.
Other whistleblowers say the same thing. When the former head of the NSA’s digital spying program – William Binney – disclosed the fact that the U.S. was spying on everyone in the U.S. and storing the data forever, and that the U.S. was quickly becoming a totalitarian state, the Feds tried to scare him into shutting up:
[Numerous] FBI officers held a gun to Binney’s head as he stepped naked from the shower. He watched with his wife and youngest son as the FBI ransacked their home. Later Binney was separated from the rest of his family, and FBI officials pressured him to implicate one of the other complainants in criminal activity. During the raid, Binney attempted to report to FBI officials the crimes he had witnessed at NSA, in particular the NSA’s violation of the constitutional rights of all Americans. However, the FBI wasn’t interested in these disclosures. Instead, FBI officials seized Binney’s private computer, which to this day has not been returned despite the fact that he has not been charged with a crime.
Other NSA whistleblowers have also been subjected to armed raids and criminal prosecution.
After high-level CIA officer John Kiriakou blew the whistle on illegal CIA torture, the government prosecuted him for espionage.
Even the head of the CIA was targeted with extra-constitutional spying and driven out of office. Indeed, Binney makes it very clear that the government will use information gained from its all-pervasive spying program to frame anyone it doesn’t like.
(More examples here.)
Retired high-level CIA analyst Ray McGovern – the top CIA briefer to numerous presidents – said this a few weeks ago on a radio program:
Which leads to the question, why would [Obama] do all these things? Why would he be afraid for example, to take the drones away from the CIA? Well, I’ve come to the conclusion that he’s afraid. Number one, he’s afraid of what happened to Martin Luther King Jr. And I know from a good friend who was there when it happened, that at a small dinner with progressive supporters – after these progressive supporters were banging on Obama before the election, “Why don’t you do the things we thought you stood for?” Obama turned sharply and said, “Don’t you remember what happened to Martin Luther King Jr.?” That’s a quote, and that’s a very revealing quote.
McGovern also said:
In a speech on March 21, second-term Obama gave us a big clue regarding his concept of leadership – one that is marked primarily by political risk-avoidance and a penchant for “leading from behind”: “Speaking as a politician, I can promise you this: political leaders will not take risks if the people do not demand that they do. You must create the change that you want to see.”
John Kennedy was willing to take huge risks in reaching out to the USSR and ending the war in Vietnam. That willingness to take risks may have gotten him assassinated, as James Douglass argues in his masterful JFK and the Unspeakable.
Martin Luther King, Jr., also took great risks and met the same end. There is more than just surmise that this weighs heavily on Barack Obama’s mind. Last year, pressed by progressive donors at a dinner party to act more like the progressive they thought he was, Obama responded sharply, “Don’t you remember what happened to Dr. King?”
We’re agnostic about McGovern’s theory. We don’t know whether Obama is a total corrupt sell-out … or a chicken. We don’t think it matters … as the effect is the same.
As long as the Dem’s are in Control (and they will be for the next few decades after Amnesty), their Party has all their people safe from Prosecution. Anyone NOT bending over for their Agenda will be ripped to shreds and his personal background made Public, or worse.
Liberals have a lot more to be worried about with tapes than we do... the MSM has covered for them for years and they feel 'safe'.
Republicans have never had that freedom - knowing if we jay walk the New York Times will want to report it.
Au contraire. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtstlx96s8M
sfl
This plan for diluting the voting strength of those who wish to preserve liberty dates back to 1964, when immigration laws were changed. We complain about our ruling elite not policing our Mexican border, but this isn’t an oversight; it’s not due to incompetence or laziness. It has been, all along, a deliberate plan to incite and exaggerate social distance, a scheme to introduce into our body politic a large mass of people who possess no experience with liberty or altruistic public officials, and who will drag us into enslavement (we are easier to conquer if we are divided). Nothing of this magnitude happens by accident.
As always; follow the money. Cheap Labor is the driving force...and Union Members don't realize that they are cutting their own throats, except that Contracting is ALWAYS with Union-Labor, at least for now. So long as Taxpayer money can be laundered and handed to favored constituencies; the Machine is safe.
MIHOP (They "Made it happen on purpose") might still be too much of a stretch, but LIHOP (They "Let it happen on purpose") is starting to sound all too plausible, especially if the result was much bigger destruction than they were expecting.
Discredited how?
maybe at the time people thought there was no way that this could happen
Maybe, but the notion that Obama isn’t behind this, and some other nefarious group is, is not plausible. These are left-wing guys talking to Olbermann, and while they certainly are on to something, I simply cannot believe that Obama isn’t the string puller.
Soon as the JFK “Truthers” came out the thread went loopy.
There’s a number of similarites between some of these people other than calling each other “comrade” on their posts):
Edward Snowden:
Edward Snowden (?used to live in San Diego - apparently wanted to live in Japan):
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/14/us-usa-security-snowden-online-idUSBRE95D02320130614
Snowden was only in the military for 4 mths in 2004 - the military won’t release any information - only that he broke both his legs...What are the odds??
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2013/06/edward-snowden-army-file-foia/66480/
Sean Smith:
Sean Smith (orig from San Diego - lived in the Hague - Netherlands with his wife and two kids)- Benghazi:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/09/12/net-us-usa-libya-smith-idUSBRE88B1G120120912
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Smith_%28diplomat%29
http://www.kpbs.org/news/2012/sep/19/sean-smith-killed-libya-embassy-attack-san-diego/
Glen Doherty:
“Doherty was a member of the advisory board of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation, an organization that opposes proselytizing by religious groups in the United States military. MRFF founder Michael L. Weinstein said that Doherty had “helped me on many MRFF client cases behind the scenes to facilitate assistance to armed forces members abused horribly by fundamentalist Christian proselytizing...”
..”Weinstein is today a one-issue whistle-blower who has driven real change in religious policy throughout the military. Advocating for secularism in the military through the Military Religious Freedom Foundation he founded in 2005, Weinstein has fought a campaign against public prayer and proselytizing by Air Force officers, particularly at the Air Force Academy, his alma mater, where he says he and his sons experienced religious discrimination. Weinstein has been accused of tilting at windmills in his struggles, but he scored a major victory in 2011, when the Air Force suspended a training course for nuclear missile launch officers that used Bible passages and religious imagery in a PowerPoint presentation about the ethics of war. Weinstein’s public persistence continues to influence Pentagon religious policies, including new rules released in 2012 restricting the sale of Bibles adorned with military insignia...”
READ MORE:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glen_Doherty#Glen_Doherty
Tyrone SNOWDEN Woods:
Lived in San Diego: “Tyrone Snowden Woods (January 15, 1971 – September 12, 2012), of Imperial Beach,[83] was born in Portland, Oregon.[93] Woods graduated from Oregon City High School in 1989,[93] south of Portland, Oregon, and served 20 years of honorable service in the U.S. Navy before joining State Department Diplomatic Security[94] as a U.S. embassy security personnel,[75] working under a service contract.[95] Since 2010, Woods had protected American diplomats in posts from Central America to the Middle East.[96]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyrone_S._Woods#Tyrone_S._Woods
Nothing significant other than his middle name is Snowden -
What are the odds???
Julian Assange:
Assange had been enrolled in a computer programming course at CQUniversity,[86] and from 2002 to 2005, Assange attended the University of Melbourne and the University of Canberra as an undergraduate student. He started a ‘Bachelor of Science (BSc) degree, studying physics, pure mathematics and, briefly, philosophy and neuroscience, but he did not graduate.[54][60][87][88]
The fact that his fellow students were doing research for the Pentagon’s DARPA was reportedly a factor in motivating him to drop out and start WikiLeaks.[48][54][88]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_Assange
A similar scholistic background to Snowden...is there a type that “they” seek?
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Flashback:
[Amdrews] Drake action within the NSA...
In the late 1990s and early 2000s, the NSA required new tools to collect intelligence from the growing flood of information pouring out of the new digital networks like the internet. Drake became involved in the internal NSA debate between two of these tools, the Trailblazer Project and the ThinThread project.[9][22] He became part of the “minority” that favored ThinThread for several reasons,[22] including its theoretical ABILITY TO PROTECT PRIVACY while gathering intelligence.[15] Trailblazer, on the other hand, not only VIOLATED PRIVACY, in violation of the Fourth Amendment, and other laws and regulations, it ALSO REQUIRED BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, DWARFING THE COST OF THINTHREAD. Drake eventually became “disillusioned, then indignant” regarding the problems he saw at the agency.[15] Circa 2000 NSA head MICHAEL HAYDEN chose Trailblazer over ThinThread; ThinThread was cancelled and Trailblazer ramped up, eventually employing IBM, SAIC, Boeing, CSC, and others.[24]
In September 2002, Roark and three former NSA officials, William Binney, J. Kirk Wiebe,[26] and Ed Loomis,[27] filed a DoD Inspector General report regarding problems at NSA, including Trailblazer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Andrews_Drake
“Trailblazer was chosen over a similar program named ThinThread, a less costly project which had been designed with built-in privacy protections for United States citizens.[4][3] Trailblazer was later linked to the NSA electronic surveillance program and the NSA warrantless surveillance controversy.[3]
Intelligence experts describe as rigorous testing of ThinThread in 1998, the project succeeded at each task with high marks. For example, its ability to sort through massive amounts of data to find threat-related communications far surpassed the existing system. It also was able to rapidly separate and encrypt U.S.-related communications to ensure privacy.[1]
The Pentagon report concluded that ThinThread’s ability to sort through data in 2001 was far superior to that of another NSA system in place in 2004, and that the program should be launched and enhanced. ThinThread was designed to address two key challenges: One, the NSA had more information than it could digest, and, two, increasingly its targets were in contact with people in the United States whose calls the agency was prohibited from monitoring.[citation needed]
Trailblazer Project had more political support internally because it was initiated by Michael Hayden when he first arrived at the NSA.[citation needed]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trailblazer_Project
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ThinThread
Trailblazer ran over budget, failed to accomplish critical goals, and was cancelled. The whistleblowers (and heir families) who were apparently fighting for our Constitutional Rights and Budget were demonized.
Trailblazer contract went to -
Science Applications International Corporation (SAIC - http://saic.com.) today announced a contract award from the National Security Agency (NSA}
The NSA selected the SAIC-led Digital Network Intelligence Enterprise team that includes Northrop Grumman Corporation...”In TRAILBLAZER, NSA is capturing the best of industry technology and experience to further their mission,” said Marty Hill, Booz Allen Hamilton vice president. “Booz Allen is proud to continue our partnership in assisting the Agency with its vital national security mission.”
http://www.thefreelibrary.com/SAIC+Team+Wins+National+Security+Agency+TRAILBLAZER+Contract.-a093081931
2006 - Trailblazer leaks:
In 2006 and 2007, Siobhan Gorman, a highly regarded intelligence reporter for the Baltimore Sun, wrote a series of articles about how the National Security Agency was (mis)managing a highly sensitive, very expensive collection program known as Trailblazer. Relying on interviews with current and former senior intelligence officials as well as internal documents, Gorman was able to show that the NSA’s “state-of-the art tool for sifting through an ocean of modern-day digital communications” was a boondoggle of sorts — and that the agency had removed several of the privacy safeguards that were put in place to protect domestic conversations and e-mails from being stored and monitored...
Drake began to interact with Gorman after a friend of Drake’s, described as a former congressional official with whom Drake had an “emotional” relationship, suggested that he contact Gorman. Drake then set up an account with the “Hushmail” e-mail service, and using a pseudonym encouraged Gorman to do so as well. The e-mail accounts served as a mechanism to facilitate the exchange of information. Drake also met with Gorman six times, the indictment alleges. Drake also allegedly helped Gorman in:
- researching stories for the reporter to write in the future by e-mailing unwitting NSA employees and accessing classified and unclassified documents on classified NSA networks;
- copying and pasting classified and unclassified information from NSA documents into untitled word processing documents which, when printed, had the classification markings removed;
- printing both classified and unclassified documents, bringing them to his home, and retaining them there without authority;
- scanning and emailing electronic copies of classified and unclassified documents to the reporter from his home computer; and
- reviewing, commenting on, and editing drafts of the reporter’s articles....
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/04/nsa-employee-indicted-for-trailblazer-leaks/39006/
“Within the NSA, the primary advocate for the ThinThread program was Richard Taylor, who headed the agency’s operations division. Taylor who has retired from the NSA, did not return calls seeking comment.
Officials say that after the successful tests of ThinThread in 1998, Taylor argued that the NSA should implement the full program.
He later told the 9/11 Commission that ThinThread could have identified the hijackers had it been in place before the attacks, according to an intelligence expert close to the commission.
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0518-07.htm
Don’t have time to find out who owned the ThinThread Program.
2007 - Revamping the NSA System:
Under the reorganization, technology developments at the NSA will be consolidated under Winter, whose priorities are expected to include getting Turbulence under control and resolving the agency’s growing problem with limitations on power available to run its expanding information technology systems, according to the memo and other internal documents obtained by the Sun.
Turbulence, which is mostly classified, is the successor to Trailblazer, a five-year program to modernize the agency’s Cold War surveillance technologies. When Alexander arrived, Trailblazer was experiencing cost overruns in the hundreds of millions of dollars and an overall price tag in excess of $1 billion, and he canceled the program. Science Applications International Corp. performed most of the work on Trailblazer.
Alexander initiated Turbulence as a conglomeration of smaller programs pursuing similar goals as Trailblazer. Only 18 months old, it already is considered troubled, but because its budget is not consolidated, some lawmakers wonder if the problems have been fully vetted.
The Senate Armed Services Committee raised that issue in a March 27 hearing: “NSA’s transformation program, Trailblazer, has been terminated because of severe management problems, and its successor, Turbulence, is experiencing the same management deficiencies that have plagued the NSA since at least the end of the Cold War,” states a document of prepared questions published by the committee staff for the hearing. The prepared questions also asked if Turbulence’s budget should be consolidated...
“We are well into a technological age where the pace of development and availability of software, machinery and innovation are outpacing the intelligence community’s old model of acquisition; threatening capabilities and operations,” said Timothy Sample, president of the Intelligence and National Security Alliance, a bipartisan advocacy and research group. “IARPA, NSA’s new CTO and Al Munson, the new DDNI for acquisition, are just a few of the indicators we are seeing that the intelligence community’s leadership is beginning to get the message.”
READ MORE:
http://washingtontechnology.com/Articles/2007/06/09/Hard-sell.aspx
Another general - Michael Hayden made the decision to opt for Trailblazer. It’s interesting to go back especially when one has a short memory such as yours truly...
There had to have been billions spent on this program (Solyndra et al)- there had to have been kickbacks - who got the money and what did it fund?
Any hand in the revelation of the Petraeus affair? Now ya gotta wonder how all that stuff was brought to light.....emails, email accounts hacked, etc.
Yes, the deeper you dig into this stuff, the curiouser and curiouser it gets.
This is what we get for surrendering civilian oversight of government (for which we may thank (D) Harry Truman....)
Bretton woods Committee - leaders:
http://www.brettonwoods.org/page/leadership-and-staff
Members...
http://www.brettonwoods.org/page/committee_members
Booz Allen used to be on the list...
http://www.brettonwoods.org/page/organizational-partners
I think the question we should ask is, “who is the driving force behind the race to the bottom in labor costs?”...in other words, who was behind the charge to dismantle the American industrial capability, and transfer it to China (et al)?
If we can come to a consensus on this, I suspect it would be highly instructive. Look at bankers, major New York and London financial houses....David Rockefeller, George Soros, Goldman Sachs, etc....
Pat Buchanan warned us about this....20 years ago. About 6 of us paid any attention to him.
“So the question should be asked: who really is in charge of the NSA? International bankers? The Knights of Malta? The unreconstructed NAZIs who were incorporated into our security apparatus after WW2? All of the above?”
I tend to keep in mind that they’re Luciferians - not everyone in the above, or UN, governments, nonprofit organizations, banking, business’, schools...are luciferians. They tend to be in strategic areas of power. They’re rich, poised, and charming leaders who have a gift of using people/tools to spread lies and confusion.
Still prefer the old theory that they were born stupid and corrupt.
“they went after high-ranking military officers..”
That’s cool. Can the NSA’s super-duper computers stop a 120mm round from an Abram’s tank? Do the tough guys at NSA have the training and weaponry to take on a 101st battalion?
Perhaps they have enough influence over the command structure that this scenario won’t be considered as a possibility.
There is a body of literature on this subject, that is well worth investigating. Peter Levenda, Andy Colvin, and Joseph Farrell (among others) have done good work exposing the occultic philosophy of the negative elite.
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