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1 posted on 06/20/2013 5:11:06 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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The rule of law is in a free fall and has been for a long time.


2 posted on 06/20/2013 5:12:48 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Tar, feathers and many rails for the zero administration.


3 posted on 06/20/2013 5:13:09 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

What’s good for the goose...


4 posted on 06/20/2013 5:13:47 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder (The only thing the Left has learned from the failures of socialism is not to call it that)
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6 posted on 06/20/2013 5:16:54 PM PDT by Nachum (The Obama "List" at www.nachumlist.com)
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"This opens up a Pandora's box," said Mark Rasch, former head of the Department of Justice Computer Crimes Unit, and now an independent consultant. “You will have situations where the phone companies no longer have the data, but the government does, and lawyers will try to get that data.”

Thanks, Obama. You've done wonders to jurisprudence, dumbass.

High-powered defense attorney: "You have evidence that will help my client."

Government: "Uh, it's classified."

High-powered defense attorney: "Bull-hockey! Hand it over!"


7 posted on 06/20/2013 5:17:38 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Ok folks here it comes, can’t lie about getting dome strange. They got you cold.


8 posted on 06/20/2013 5:20:17 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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I agree —the gummint bugged their trusting SUBJECTS, and now the gummint will be subjected to all this these demands and nagging.

I think it’s fair, and I hope it completely exhausts them.

They have many thousands of employees, and the data is our PROPERTY, since we paid for it.


10 posted on 06/20/2013 5:23:02 PM PDT by gaijin
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the federal government filed a motion saying it would refuse, citing national security.

It would not harm national security to release a complete record of who this alleged murderer called and when. If the government is going to collect the data, he is entitled to use the data in his defense.

Amendment VI: In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall . . . have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor . . .

11 posted on 06/20/2013 5:24:02 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Two cheers for the lawyers. If they can’t fix it, at least muck it up completely.


12 posted on 06/20/2013 5:29:37 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Won’t hold up in a court of law. The opposing attorney will rightly claim that the evidence was illegally obtained by the government.


14 posted on 06/20/2013 5:36:40 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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welcome news.

if it helps the search for justice.
especially in divorce matters.


18 posted on 06/20/2013 5:44:02 PM PDT by RockyTx
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The NSA is capturing phone calls, business records, internet searches, sites frequented,... heaven only knows what more.

Let’s just look at the phone call end of this. Folks can extrapolate out the rest on their own.

We have 316 million citizens

If those citizens make 2 calls a day on average, that works out to 227.5 billion calls per year. If the number of calls averages 6 calls per day, the number of calls per year increases to 682.6 billion calls per year.

Some folks may not make that many calls themselves, but others do and the average is probably more than we might think.

Out of even the low end 227.5 billion calls, the best the NSA can come up with is fifty saves, with the most rosy outcome the NSA could come up with.

227.5 billion calls, 50 saves.

That’s 0.000000021976090% efficiency.

Only a government troll could find that level of payoff, to be worth capturing 227.5 billion calls. Only a Third Reich fan-boy, could find collecting this much data on his fellow citizens to be the right thing to do.

I’d like to know how many of those ‘VAST’ 50 stopped terrorist attacks, couldn’t have been stopped with warrants and a traditional follow-through?

Any? 50, 40, 30, 20, 10,... even one?


20 posted on 06/20/2013 5:49:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kennedy: Today I am a Berliner / Reagan: Gorbachev tear down this wall / Obama: I can't read this...)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

And all it will take is just ONE judge, to set it in motion.


24 posted on 06/20/2013 6:12:46 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Well, it is what the Sheeple voted for....)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

The thing is, some anonymous person/s could start publishing stuff on the internet claiming they had access to the NSA database.

The only way to disprove it would be to allow access to the real database. (even so the NSA data could be altered..thus no way to ever be certain)

Phone call audio would be the most explosive data to publish. This audio can be gathered in many ways. The NSA would be fingered as the guilty party who originally gathered it since their reputation is totally shot.

Mega scandal.


28 posted on 06/20/2013 7:41:29 PM PDT by Bobalu (It is not obama we are fighting, it is the media.)
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Fruits of the most idiotic scandal ever.

How about focusing on our “representatives” that are legislating and funding the controversial activity? Nah, not sexy enough.


31 posted on 06/21/2013 2:27:31 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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Revolt will come out of this.


33 posted on 06/21/2013 3:14:55 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW?

34 posted on 06/21/2013 3:22:30 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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What a perversion of our legal system - on a scale almost unimaginable!

An immoral nation can’t expect anything better.

It’s not the Constitution that is the supreme law of the land. Rather, it’s the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God.


37 posted on 06/21/2013 4:10:47 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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