Time to stop arguing about climate change, World Bank says

Reuters ^ | Jun 19, 2013 | Nina Chestney

[Toddsterpatriot]

LONDON, June 19 (Reuters) - The world should stop arguing about whether humans are causing climate change and start taking action to stop dangerous temperature rises, the president of the World Bank said on Wednesday.

Kim Jim Yong Kim said there was 97 to 98 percent agreement among scientists that global warming was real and caused by human activity.

"If you disagree with the science of human-caused climate change you are not disagreeing that there is anthropogenic climate change. What you are disagreeing with is science itself," Kim told a Thomson Reuters newsmaker event in London.

[BitWielder1]

Even assuming AGW is real, it completely escapes me how redistributing money from rich nations (where better technology is more likely to be invented) to third world nations (where they still burn dung) could in any way alleviate global warming.
After all, IF all this cash actually improves the economy of the receiving nations, wouldn't the world wide energy demand go up?

[RJS1950]

I’ll not only disagree with the “Lysenko” science of GCC, I would also tell the World Bank to Piss Off and tend to your stealing of other people’s money. Science advice from a “Bank”, yeah, sure.

The science is settled: the world is flat, the sun and planets revolve around the earth, the philosopher’s stone will turn lead to gold, the atom bomb will never work, man will never fly, man will never fly in space, disease is caused by bad humors, etc.

If you disagreed with Lysenko science then you ended up at best in a Gulag. Make no mistake, this is what these twits wish for as well.

[ForAmerica]

Time to stop arguing about climate change, World Bank says

Yep, I agree, it's natural!

[cripplecreek]

43 degrees here in Southern Michigan when I got up this morning.

[DManA]

start taking action to stop dangerous temperature rises

No action so far proposed by these guys will even theoretically stop the imaginary temperature rise. Their own models predict the draconian taxes and the regulation pushing us back 75 years will accomplish nothing.

Maybe the best strategy is to stop arguing about AGW and start focusing on the staggering costs and no benefits of their proposals. Paint picutes of the nighmare world THEY would create with theire proposals.

[cuban leaf]

“Time to stop arguing....cause we’re losing”

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Like a team that comes on strong in the first quarter playing a “come from behind” team. “Let’s stop the game at halftime, while we’re still ahead!”

Unfortunately for them, we are in this for the whole game.

[Smokin' Joe]

Do a search for The Petition Project. Over 31,000 scientists have signed it saying the science is not "settled" and asking the Government not to sign the Kyoto or similar accords.

I stand with the 31,000 plus.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

TRANSLATION: "Show us the money."

[Phillyred]

If we only had these leaders around thousands of years ago, we might still be blessed with the Ice Age!

[fuzzylogic]

If the science is complete then why are we still funding it???

anyone?

[expat_panama]

Most of us here consider AGW to be a scam.  A few weeks ago I was reading some leftist pundit who as outraged that we'd accuse "thousands of scientists" of being dishonest cheats.  I checked and there are millions of scientists in the world.  We're being asked:  can there really be one tenth of a percent of all the world's scientists who are in fact dishonest cheats?

 

 

yes

[beautress1]

The critics of anthropogenic global warming make the issue a bit of a conundrum for many, as mentioned in the linked article: “A study last month found that 97 percent of around 4,000 scientific reports giving an opinion about the cause of climate change since the 1990s said it was mainly human. Sceptics said the survey wrongly omitted thousands of papers which did not give a view.” (http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/19/worldbank-climate-idUSL2N0EU1C20130619?feedType=RSS&feedName=technologySector&rpc=43)

IOW, skeptics still believe the earlier world-class error of omission is in place. Those who go along with data gleaned by alleged cherry-picking are adamant that earth will get too hot to handle, and have postponed the flood dates for coastlines worldwide. Have they considered that if the data is not founded in the solid rock of truth, our steps to cool earth down could, based on false data, bring glaciers to the tropics if a 3-degree drop registers due to combining with other natural drops.

Truth may be confusing for a general public that sees a press eager to make heroes of this concocted presentation that nags at even those who realize it’s concocted. Who didn’t have a good teacher who said “If you see a piece of trash laying around, put your gloves on and put it in a receptacle and the world will be a better place because of you.”?

Environmentalism nags us to do the right thing, but if facts become skewed, we still feel loyalty to “doing that right thing” of fixing something. It’s clear the scientific community is not being up-front about the true facts with so many of them omitted from their studies by which they are dictating demands for public action.

In the big picture, the omissions have led to a conundrum of the public. Acting based on misleading evidence could be just as disastrous as doing nothing if anthropogenic global warming had been the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

Unfortunately, we haven’t that assurance. I hope the World Bank head reexamines his.

[Toddsterpatriot]

“Time to stop arguing....cause we're losing”

Exactly! If they were right, if they were winning, they wouldn't have to cherry-pick data, prevent critics from publishing and use "Mike's nature trick".

[EQAndyBuzz]

I am 100% in agreement. We need to do something about Global Warming.

However in saying that, I only have a couple of simple questions that I need answered by the scientific community.

What if your calculations are incorrect and you cool the earth too much? What are your mitigation plans?
Exactly how much CO2 has to be removed from the atmosphere for us to get to an optimum temperature?
What is the plan for ensuring the correct climate change happens across the entire world?
How much is this going to cost?

So these 1000’s of scientists all got together, said there is a problem yet the only solution is to give the Communists money.

Here is my solution. Plant life eats CO2. Basically we need more plants. Therefore, first thing is clear cut old growth forests to prevent burning additional burning which creates CO2. Sorry Sierra Club.

Next thing is to grow crops throughout the world. Build desalinization plants and turn the dessert into paradise. Worked in Israel. Build them all along the African coastline and turn the Middle East and Africa into the worlds largest farm. Plenty of jobs, new economies and at the same time saving the world.

Just did the scientists jobs for them.

[CottShop]

[[Time to stop arguing about climate change, World Bank says]]

NOONE is arguing abotu it but you con artists- the rest of us know for a fact it’s been nothign but a scam from the very beginning to extort money from people- the alarmists have been caught tiem and again LYING abotu the data, and then coverign up their LIES- so yeah- it’s time alright- only it’s tiome for the alarmists and scam artists to STOP LYING- and let peopel get o nwith hteir lives and not have to feel guiklty abotu soemthign they ARE NOT CAUSING

[yefragetuwrabrumuy]

The best response to this would be the headline, “World Bank president Kim Jim Yong Kim destroys the already minimal credibility of the World Bank, by embracing One World Government.”

[Cringing Negativism Network]

Hey.

A topic we agree 100% on. :D

[CottShop]

[[Science is not based on 97 to 98% consensus! Science is definitive]]

There was an article yesterday on FR showign htat they LIED abotu that figure too- they conducted a ‘survey’ of scientists and asked the question in such a way so that no matter how the person responded, they coudl chalk it up to an ‘I agree man is to blame’ answer-

But all of htis is moot- the administration coudl care less what the truth is- they AFRE goign to make everyoen pay for soemthign they aren’t causing because it means an unlimitted uninteruppted cash flow into hte govenrment that noone can escape from- they are STEALING our money based on false pretenses and they coudl care less that we know they are crooks and liars- they are criminal thugs- plain and simple-

imagien IF a group of thugs walked into stores all over htis coutnry and said “Your store is causing the moon to shift which ‘may eventually’ put us all in danger, and thus we are goign to take 30% of your income because you are ‘ruining the heavens’ with your business” That woudl be called extortion, and extortion is ILLEGAL- yet our govenrment is gettign away with it (We’re ALREADY payign back door ‘carbon taxes’ inthat the ‘president’ is quietly tackign on higher taxes for energy consuming devices and chaerging busiensses higher taxes with greater environmental restrictions whgich raises the prices for everyone)

[CottShop]

[[Can we also blame it on glo-bull warming?]]

No matter which way the wind blows- hot or cold- they will ALWAYS blame it on man and claim ‘;thsi was predicted years ago- our computer models indicated it might get ‘colder/hotter’ whichever the case may be- I’ve seen them switch positions so rapidly and so many times you can’t tell which way they are leanign any logner-

[a fool in paradise]

Time to stop listening to the World Banksters.