Tesla to demo quick-swap electric car batteries

Phys.Org ^ | 06-18-2013 | Staff

[Red Badger]

Tesla Roadster Sport 2.5

Manufacturer Tesla Motors

Also called Code name: DarkStar

Production 2008–2012

Assembly Hethel, Norfolk, England

Menlo Park, California, USA

Class Roadster

Body style 2-door Roadster

Layout Rear mid-engine, rear-wheel drive

Electric motor 1.5, 2.0 : 248 hp (185 kW), 200·lb·ft/s (270 N·m), 3-phase 4-pole; 2.5

Non-Sport : 288 hp (215 kW), 273·lb·ft (370 N·m), 3-phase 4-pole; 2.5

Sport : 288 hp (215 kW), 295·lb·ft (400 N·m), 3-phase 4-pole

AC induction motor

Transmission Single speed BorgWarner fixed gear (8.27:1 ratio)

Battery 53 kWh (Lithium-ion battery)

Electric range 244 mi (393 km) using EPA combined cycle

Wheelbase 2,352 mm (92.6 in)

Length 3,946 mm (155.4 in)

Width 1,873 mm (73.7 in)

Height 1,127 mm (44.4 in)

Curb weight 2,723 lb (1,235 kg)

Related Lotus Elise

Designer Tesla Motors

[Alex in chains]

The reason they are “quick swap” is just in case the battery is on fire when you are taking it out of your car.

[Gay State Conservative]

I have a diesel that I love.I’ll never again drive anything else,even if it’s given to me.That most assuredly includes electrics.

[Sacajaweau]

How big and how heavy are the batteries. And is it worth the effort?

Will this be like the copiers where the ink cartridges are the biggest expense??

Can "old" batteries be re-celled?

[DoughtyOne]

It had seemed to me that if they could come up with a slide in battery back that was interchangeable, you wouldn’t own your own pack. You would merely rent a pack until you get to the next station.

That would eliminate the range problem. Of course that’s if you coild go at least 250 miles on a pack.

[C210N]

Nice car. Should be able to power it with those white tripod things in the background. Look forward to the model with one mounted on the hood. Should REALLY get great mileage once the speed is up on the highway!

[WayneS]

Tesla to demo quick-swap electric car batteries

They haven't really even given them a chance - why destroy them?

[catnipman]

Given that some of the Tesla batteries weight 800 pounds, I suppose the meaning of “quick swap” would depend upon the definition of “quick”, as Willy Clinton might say. Not to mention you’d need a “spare” 800 pound battery laying around to swap, plus the chain hoist to do the swap with. Wonder if your average soccer mom can operate a chain hoist good enough to move around a pair of 800 pound batteries without dropping or bumping anything important and without a lot of unnecessary high amperage arcing.

[rottndog]

You may not own the battery pack, but one way or another you will be paying for it, and it ain’t cheap.

The true value and actual cost of operating these cars won’t be known until after the battery’s average life span under real world conditions is established.

[palmer]

It would over 5 hours to charge the battery with one of the windmills in the background assuming 2MW, 25% capacity factor and no losses. Losses turn it into an all day affair (or more windmills per car). Is that an efficient use of the birdchopper and land area.

[DoughtyOne]

I understand that. You’d probably still pay a mid-range price for a swap. $40-$50 bucks.

[DoughtyOne]

I’m thinking you’d have to have an awful lot of batter packs on site to handle the business though.

[Lurkina.n.Learnin]

” you wouldn’t own your own pack. You would merely rent a pack until you get to the next station.”

It would just about have to be that way. If not when your batteries were near the end of their useful life you would just go to a station and swap it out. If you just purchased new batteries you would not want to have it replaced with an old one.

[DoughtyOne]

Yes that’s true.

[BfloGuy]

How big and how heavy are the batteries. And is it worth the effort?

I read recently about an Israeli company that tried the same concept: a network of battery-swap stations. I believe they're going bankrupt. And that's in a tiny country.

I'm not predicting Tesla's future by any means, but this has been tried and I think it shows just how unready this technology is for mass use.

[Red Badger]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla_Model_S

[Signalman]

Electric range 244 mi

* *Note: Driving through Arizona during the month of August using the air conditioner will cut the range of your Tesla to 28 miles.

[Joe 6-pack]

"*Note: Driving through Arizona during the month of August using the air conditioner will cut the range of your Tesla to 28 miles."

They'll just have to put up a battery swap station every 28 miles in the desert. Immigration Reform is all about ensuring an adequate supply of Mexicans to man them all.

[TurboZamboni]

are the quick swap batteries carried with you are do they just show up at your destination charged and waiting for you?

[Sacajaweau]

Plus the fire factor and the danger factor in the event of an accident. I remember that being a big deal.