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Are The Protests In Turkey Really About A Park?
NPR ^ | Saturday, June 15, 2013 | Scott Simon et al

Posted on 06/15/2013 10:19:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv

Weekend Edition Saturday Host Scott Simon talks to award winning Turkish novelist Elif Shafak about the nature and deeper causes of the protests in Turkey, which erupted two weeks ago.

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


TOPICS: Israel; Russia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: elifshafak; israel; kurdistan; russia; scottsimon; syria; turkey; turkeyriots; waronterror
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1 posted on 06/15/2013 10:19:10 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Occupy Ankara ping.


2 posted on 06/15/2013 10:20:00 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

This started as a renovation project was stamped offical and approved by the government....which would have torn up a local city park for a bunch of stores. The locals staged a fit because there was no discussion.

What you find from the current government (not just the President), is that the political party running the country....makes quick decisions without any discussions or talk. The public....over the last five years....have gotten pretty disturbed by this.

The other thing of interest was that banning of alcohol...without any consultation with the public. It all sells well with the rural establishment that is more conservative (funny how this relates to the US). The urban folks are upset that they have no say in any of the decision making apparatus.


3 posted on 06/15/2013 10:24:04 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

It made a nice pretext, just like the alcohol ban did. Ultimately, people out of power are the only ones concerned about “consensus building”.


4 posted on 06/15/2013 10:35:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv

There is NOT ONE Muslim country that should matter to the United States. We have no interest in common with them. NONE. I don’t care what they’re fighting about - because they’re always fighting... Muslims are involved in every war in the world at this time.

Our job must be to stay the hell away from them and their wars.


5 posted on 06/15/2013 12:03:28 PM PDT by GOPJ (Why don't Democrats waste their time trying to win the votes of gun owners? - Coulter)
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To: SunkenCiv

Were the “protests” in Libya really about a YouTube video?
Same sh*t...different day.


6 posted on 06/15/2013 12:04:29 PM PDT by LFOD (Formerly - Iraq, Afgahnistan - back home in Dixie.)
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To: pepsionice

“This started as a renovation project was stamped offical and approved by the government....which would have torn up a local city park for a bunch of stores.”

There appears to be more to this than meets the eye. The park was symbolic of Ataturk’s secular government. The current government is widely seen as extremist Muslim and has been eradicating all traces of the previous secular government. My understanding is that these protests are against the current government and not a particular project. The US media has not carried this version of the story. I got it from a Turkish blog.


7 posted on 06/15/2013 12:22:55 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: SunkenCiv

NPR has what alcoholics call “a moment of clarity”.

Or, not -likely...!!!


8 posted on 06/15/2013 12:31:00 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Gen.Blather

I am with you on that.

And someone here posted an interesting point...

” When you live in a totalarian State, you have to get the real news, the truth from foreign sources”

We have absolutely no media.

Most US news I get via the British press on the net.


9 posted on 06/15/2013 12:36:03 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot
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To: DanielRedfoot

Sorry about the spelling, can’t hardly see on this I pad


10 posted on 06/15/2013 12:36:59 PM PDT by DanielRedfoot
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To: SunkenCiv
I've been getting my news about the Turkish Gezi Park protests from Facebook postings and repostings by a former graduate assistant of mine when I was teaching there. US news media are missing out completely.
11 posted on 06/15/2013 1:04:54 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney ( New book: RESISTANCE TO TYRANNY. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: Gen.Blather

I’ve been to Turkey a couple of times. Typically, Turks don’t talk religion much....most are pretender Muslims...and they are all peppy on business.


12 posted on 06/15/2013 1:22:58 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: JoeFromSidney
US news media are missing out completely

I suspect Saudi new stock holders have a critical influence over the American press. Spit on American reporters. They allow themselves to be told what to report.

13 posted on 06/15/2013 1:26:15 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: SunkenCiv

A park? Of course not, it’s Turkish Spring!
The greatness of Ataturk, has instilled a
secular sense of freedom that will not be oppressed.

I pray for the Turkish people.


14 posted on 06/15/2013 1:30:50 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SunkenCiv

hey it is turkey expect gobbledygook


15 posted on 06/15/2013 3:09:52 PM PDT by bigheadfred (barry your mouth is writing checks your ass cant cash)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Sounds like a good idea for an FR live thread?


16 posted on 06/15/2013 5:26:46 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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/bingo


17 posted on 06/15/2013 5:30:20 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: GOPJ

We need to keep them fighting one another until either the “faith” bleeds to death, or its practitioners do, iow, make sure they keep stirred up against each other and never run out of ammo.

The director Sam Fuller has interesting comments (this is another one of those rambling ‘Civ sidebars) in one or more the ‘extras’ on the disk of “The Big Red One” — in real war, when an enemy surrendered, if he had bullets left, POW, but if none, then he gave up because he ran out of ammo, and, pllt.


18 posted on 06/15/2013 5:45:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: GOPJ

That would be a valid point, if their wars stayed at home, but they don’t. A couple of years ago I looked up flight times, and found (as I Recall) it’s 14 hours from Kabul to Knoxville. This is a very small interconnected world, and getting more so all the time.


19 posted on 06/15/2013 6:04:47 PM PDT by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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To: JoeFromSidney

“US news media are missing out completely.”

SHOCK!!! :-)


20 posted on 06/15/2013 6:06:31 PM PDT by Valin (I'm not completely worthless. I can be used as a bad example.)
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