Posted on 06/12/2013 8:35:54 AM PDT by EveningStar
... The State of Florida v. George Zimmerman, which started jury selection this week in Sanford, Fla., has the makings of another high-profile cliffhanger ...
Presiding over the case is Debra S. Nelson, described by defense attorneys and others as a no-nonsense jurist.
"She doesn't play games," Orlando criminal defense attorney Luis F. Calderon told Yahoo News. "She doesn't come across as mean, but she’s pretty firm in her rulings." ...
Nelson ... has been on the bench for 14 years, having been appointed by then-Gov. Jeb Bush in 1999 ...
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
No way would this (or likely, any) judge have dismissed the charges against Zimmerman based on the politically charged “stand your ground” defense. That was never politically feasible. You have to know that. The result of a “stand your ground” hearing would only have been a loss for Zimmerman and a “win” for the scumbags - - and it would have provided momentum for the scumbags.
Zimmerman’s lawyers were wise to give the scumbags the finger and waive the freak show they so desperately wanted.
It’s when I knew Zimmerman’s lawyers were serious about winning.
FRegards,
LH
As of Monday, the Crump deposition was still being scheduled.
Its what the radio lawyers said.
also, using self defense as a defense is not the same as using stand your ground as a defense.
Yeah. She plays for keeps, and is below average in her field. She’s also an ex-prosecutor, and maintains her bias in favor of state. She want the defendants to be convicted according to the process.
Yes. IOW, not in time for the trial. What he has to say will probably impact the case.
Do you think the Yahoo reporter is just making this all up?
What news service do you trust?
On appeal, Zimmerman won the right to get a deposition from Crump, the “Martin family attorney” who had butted into the case by getting the interview with “witness Eight,” AKA “DeeDee.”
There is a lot of trouble with the contents of that interview, not the least of which is the lack of cross-examination of the witness. As things stand today, that “testimony” is damaging to Zimmerman with no way to rebut any of it. The next-best thing is to get the attorney responsible for the interview into sworn testimony.
Nelson denied it, and she was beaten on appeal. She has to allow the depo, but she’s stalling it until after the trial so it won’t make a difference in the kangaroo court. She’s rushing this into trial, skipping some very important steps in the process. They hadn’t even finished taking testimony about the expert witnesses.
The SYG defense hearing was waived because it did not apply.
This is a straight forward self-defense argument. According to FLA rules, that defense must be proven in a court of law.
I will defer to anyone more familiar with FLA law/rules.
There is a picture here that looks like GZ. Compare GZ to Ft. Hood massacare.
this terrorist kills 13 USA soldiers in cold blood and is still alive, shooter is given free medical care, army allows him all kinds of rights, army still pays him, he is not in prison or hung yet, trial goes on and on, army won’t admit he is a terrorist even though he shouted allu axbar, grows a beard and they have to rule on that,treated like a hero by this admin. and so on.......
Now GZ, defends himself from getting axed by a thug, found guilty immediately, and the liar in chief doesn’t want GZ as his son, only a thug will do.
The fix is in, GZ is going to be found guilty no matter what. Most potential jurors never heard of this case. If you believe this I have a bridge over the Mississippi I need to sell ya.
From the article: “Prosecutors allege that Zimmerman is guilty of profiling.”
Ummm... please show me where that violation is in the FLA statutes? SPECIFICALLY, what law makes it “illegal” to “profile”.
AFAIK, “bigotry” is still ^protected^ under the 1st Amendment.
I remember. hopefully since this trial isn’t on the left coast that will help.
female lawyer.
the odds favor she was a member os a female lawyer organization with feminist mental defects.
the odds favor she was in a left wing law student organization.
The odds favor she is a member of the leftist ABA.
the odds favor she is a member of the democrat party and did vote for obama.
Yahoo news, seems the fix is in.
You may be confusing the depo with the other matters she’s stalling on. The depo will proceed, either within the next few days, or during the period after jury selection. The court was clear that the only reason they took up the question is that not permitting it until after trial would be reversable error. They’ll get one before trial.
seems she is the “third prosecutor” in the case.
Trials are SUPPOSED to be unfair.
Unfair TO THE PROSECUTION.
A “fair trial” is just a government propaganda point. A unfair trial is to put ALL the burden on the state.
Every time in jury selection that the state asks for an impartial jury, it is a lie to violate the rules.
You’re correct, I am confused. What is confusing me is this Jury Selection now, with preliminary matters (Frye hearing, deposition, etc.) still going on. I thought the trial is supposed to start the day a Jury is seated.
That's Nelson in a Nutshell.
Yeah, rushing into jury selection with a bunch of issues still undecided is pretty lame, although postponing the sanctions issue didn’t hurt. Following jury selection, there’ll be pre-trial motions, including sequestration again. The Frye issue will still have to be finished at some point, and the more lead time the losing party gets if it goes against them, the better. If there’s sequestration, there’s usually an opportunity for the jurors to pack, wrap up family business, etc.
She’s been playing games since day 1.
Yes, I think Yahoo reporters often spin stories, outright lie, and select sources to promulgate an editorial line dictated by its very leftist news director. (Headlines like “Job Losses Indicate Strong Recovery” give away the game). I had no desire to fault you for posting from Yahoo — we should always read opinions contrary to our own.
In this instance, I have read and compared hundreds of news stories from diverse sources (none of which I trust by themselves), 1000’s of comments, watched clips of the judge in action, read motions, deposition, and this judge’s rulings, and read the 5th DCA’s unanimous destruction of her on two recent appeals. The notion that Judge Nelson is “tough but fair” is simply not plausible, at least not in big-league cases. Her rulings are high-handed, biased towards the prosecution, and illogical; the recent Frye hearings indicate an inability to manage her court effectively. Feel free to search the many articles on Free Republic and elsewhere about the Martin/Zimmerman case — in the GZ case, she is so unimpressive that the Yahoo piece struck me as the very opposite of reality.
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