Posted on 06/05/2013 4:48:51 AM PDT by Kaslin
Americans might generally think that if someone forges a document and uses a Social Security number that does not belong to them, they should go to jail.
Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., believes if you are an illegal alien and you do these things, you should become a U.S. citizen. He made his case for this in the Senate Judiciary Committee.
When the committee was considering amendments to its immigration "reform" bill on May 20, Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, pointed to a report published by The Associated Press in March.
This report told the story of Candida L. Gutierrez, a Houston schoolteacher, and Benita Cardona-Gonzalez, an illegal alien from Mexico who stole Gutierrez's identity.
"When Gutierrez's identity was stolen, the thief didn't stop at opening fraudulent credit and bank accounts," the AP reported. "Cardona-Gonzalez assumed Gutierrez's persona completely, using it to get a job, a driver's license, a mortgage and medical care for her children. She even put the stolen name on the birth certificates of her two U.S.-born children in the spots where they list who's the mother."
The identity theft went on for 12 years. Finally, Gutierrez's husband, Brenden Marquardt, pushed the case.
"He traced the identity thief to Topeka, and on the Internet he found a press release from the U.S. attorney's office in Kansas about the prosecutions of other illegal immigrants working at Reser's Fine Foods, the same manufacturer where Cardona-Gonzalez worked," the AP reported. "He contacted federal authorities in Kansas, and Assistant U.S. Attorney Brent Anderson took up their case."
Cardona-Gonzalez, the AP reported, was sentenced to 18 months for possessing fraudulent identification documents. But other illegal aliens who have misused Social Security numbers will get something quite different if Schumer has his way.
After pointing to the victimization of Candida Gutierrez, Grassley explained to the Judiciary Committee a simple amendment he was offering to the immigration bill.
"The secretary (of homeland security) may not grant registered provisional immigrant status to an alien under this section unless the alien fully discloses to the secretary all the names and Social Security account numbers that the alien has ever used to obtain employment in the United States," said Grassley's amendment.
According to the immigration "reform" bill, a "registered provisional immigrant" (RPI) is an illegal alien who the secretary of homeland security has been authorized to convert into a legal alien, who can then work and live in the United States.
Grassley's amendment would not have prohibited illegal aliens from being converted into legal aliens just because they had used names and Social Security numbers that did not belong to them. It would only have required that the illegal aliens make the names and numbers they used known to DHS before they could be granted the right to legally live in the United States.
"If Congress is going to adopt legislation that grants legal status to the 12 million undocumented living unlawfully in the United States, it should not thumb its nose at the millions of Americans who are victims of identity theft, often perpetrated by an undocumented person who steals Social Security numbers to get jobs, benefits, driver's licenses and more," said Grassley.
"This amendment will simply require the person applying for RPI status to disclose any previously used Social Security numbers," said Grassley. "It's the first step to helping clean up the mess that's been created for the victim of identity theft. The amendment also authorizes certain federal agencies, upon receipt of this information, to notify individuals who were the victims."
Schumer dismissed Grassley's proposal.
"When people are living in undocumented status, there are times, I suppose, when they've made up identities, made up Social Security numbers," Schumer told his Judiciary Committee colleagues. "How are they going to remember all that, and are we going to delay RPI status?
"(The) purpose of this is to bring people out of the shadows," Schumer said of the "reform" bill. "We all know when they lived in the shadows, they had to forge documents, forge Social Security numbers, et cetera. We want to stop that once and for all so it never happens again. But this isn't going to help. This is going to leave millions of people still in the shadows and not able to come out of the shadows and won't solve the problem that we're trying to solve, which is to have as few people here illegally as possible, put them on RPI, provisional status and then get them on a path to citizenship."
"I just don't see how, when you've lived here 10 years, and you've had many different identities, many different numbers, you're going to remember them all," said Schumer.
The committee defeated Grassley's amendment 8 to 10 on a party-line vote.
As this column has noted before, the inspector general of the Social Security Administration reported in a 2008 audit report that U.S. employers filed 10.1 million W-2s in tax year 2005 on which the name and the Social Security number did not match. In that same year, 1,650 employers filed more than 500 no-match W-2s -- and one employer filed 37,375.
Newsflash : that was a video of Schumer and McCain heaping praise on YOUR RINO Rubio on a show hosted by that 'left wing rag' you call it.
I know that you know what videos are... You watch them every night with Bush in them , another big amnesty Pubbie.
I was talking about the entire Congress at different times. Obviously you are not paying attention
The fact is that the rats are the ones who want to give the illegals amnesty with no questions asked. Because it means instant democrat voters
His treachery is very short-sighted.
See how far they’ve pushed you?
Now that there is one GOP senator claiming to be against including immediate citizenship guarantees in *this* bill, he’s okay to you on the amnesty spectrum.
Cruz is for massive amnesty by legalizing the tens of millions of illegals here, whose very advocates admit have been committing rampant identity theft felonies at such an alarming rate that we supposedly can’t even expect them to keep track of all the felonies they have committed. But that is a little less bad than the GOP senators giving in even more completely, so we have to consider it less than hideous?
Wake up and don’t fall for the relativism amongst the massive sellout taking place currently on both sides of the aisle!
Ha ha—I didn’t even think of that as one, small, side consideration for the Democrats’ demands in this bill: make sure that Obama is immediately legalized—even if his well maybe having served as president without being a citizenship is somehow exposed!
True. The same argument I have had for many years with people who don’t see illegals as criminals. They not only violated our laws by coming here they constantly violate other laws along the way. They are criminals many times over.
what is the issue with the minds of short senators?
democrats have all the power, most of these billionaires, the news media,Hollywood, the presidency,the senate ,the unions, all of these groups funded by Soros, etc.
The Dems have all that power and still couldn’t resist putting their jackboots on the necks of those little ladies with $2,000 budgets for their Tea Parties. That says it all right there. The Democratic Party is filled with human debris.
After yesterday it’s hard not to see them as evil encarnate. Rush likes too run a promo saying we don’t think the Dems are bad people but after yesterday how can you think of them as anything but 21st century totalitarians?
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EVER WONDER WHAT'S IN THOSE BACKPACKS AS THEY SWARM ACROSS OUR BORDERS? (1) Several voter registration forms---one for each identity, (2) a Taco Bell coupon w/ "Vote Democrat" printed in Spanish, (3) driver’s licenses for each identity, (4) the address of the nearest welfare office, (5) EITC refund forms (one for each identity), and, (6) a packet of cash transfer forms to wire US tax dollars back home.
Course, some of 'em bring pressure cookers (cackle)
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OHAHA REVS UP THE US GRAVY TRAIN FOR SALIVATING THIRD WORLD PARASITES overwhelming our social welfare and political systems with entire primitive populations of parasitic savages from antediluvean Third World countries who suck at the taxpayers' teat with no compunction whatsoever.
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LYING IN WAIT FOR OUR TAX DOLLARS---THESE IMPOVERISHED COUNTRIES CURRENTLY HAVE ORGANIZED PRESSURE GROUPS INSIDE THE US (here illegally): Argentina, Belize, Bolivia, Chile, Colombia, Costa Rica, Cuba, Dominica Republic, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras, Mexico, Nicaragua, Panama, Paraguay, Peru, Puerto Rico (stateside)l Salvador, Spain, Uruguay, Venezuela.
AS ONE EXAMPLE: Dominican Republic travel brochures reveal the Third World hellhole provides no safety nets for its impoverished populations. The DR depends on the billion dollars per year their illegal population collect in the US and send back home.
Democrats are pure evil statist/socialist traitors. Look at how they went after the tea party victims of the IRS , excusing Obama and the IRS tyranny
DoughtyOne: Put aliens who forged documents on path back home.
” In other words the purpose of this bill is to get them to come out of the shadows and sign up for food stamps for their kids, the EITC (yes Rubio lied when he said they get nothing), college tuition aid, local welware...and then vote.
But to do this Rubio has to lie and tell us that these illegals will go to the back of the line and will not get amnesty.
Where is Rubio on this amendment??? crickets.. “
FUMR!
” You are completely ignoring the fact that it is the rats who want to give the illegals amnesty because it means instant democrat voters.”
Uh....what about
1) McCain?
2) Flake?
3)Rubio?
4)Ryan?
” Rubio on the other hand is Schumer and Obama’s useful idiot.
He is out there lying to Republicans about this bill. “
BINGO.
“To: sickoflibs
I find it interesting that you skipped right over to page 4 and ignore what he said in pages 1, 2 and 3, because you did not like it.
Admit your hatred against Rubio and especially Cuban-Americans “
LOL...well evidently, Jim Rob hates Cuban Americans(along with hundreds of long-time proven conservative FReepers) I don’t know how many times JR has posted”FUMR” recently, but its a bunch : )
FWIW, Rubio is a silver-tongued con man, and very transparent to most FReepers. Get a clue.
B U M P
not
Senators McCain
Flake
Rubio
and Congressman Ryan
” News Flash: The article is about Schumer”
Go back and read your post #14. YOU went off on the tangent.
” Rubio Derangement Syndrome”
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