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Teen denied diploma, fined over Native American feather
QMI AGENCY ^ | June 4, 2013

Posted on 06/04/2013 11:44:25 AM PDT by rickmichaels

An Alabama teenager was denied her high school diploma and fined $1,000 for wearing a feather on her graduation cap to celebrate her Native American heritage.

Escambia Academy High School in Atmore, Ala., makes its students and staff sign a pre-graduation contract agreeing not to wear "extraneous items during graduation exercises unless approved by the administration."

Chelsey Ramer, 17, tried in vain to get approval to attach an eagle's feather to her graduation cap as a symbol of her Native culture.

"They told me that if I wore it that they would pull me off the field," Ramer, a member of the Poarch Creek Band, told NBC affiliate Local 15.

But Ramer wore it anyway and refused to sign the dress-code contract.

The school wouldn't give Ramer her diploma. She now has to fork over $1,000 to get it.

The teen, however, regrets nothing.

"It was worth it. It means a lot to me," Ramer said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: americanindians; commencements; leftismoncampus; nativeamericans
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

There was no assertion in the article as to appreciation of awesomeness.

People will differ as to whether pride has been earned, but only by self is it felt.


101 posted on 06/04/2013 1:01:49 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I often wish you were subtle.


102 posted on 06/04/2013 1:02:45 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

I think it was for the protection of our national bird. People were killing eagles for their feathers. That is all I can remember about the conversation because it was a number of years ago.


103 posted on 06/04/2013 1:03:44 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: bgill
A feather today will become a whole chicken suit for some graduate next year.

Oh my gosh, that reminds me of a joke.

104 posted on 06/04/2013 1:04:36 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: F15Eagle
$1,000 for a diploma? She didn’t sign any contract. And if she’s 17, it’s probably not binding anyways.

She didn't, but the parents did. Remember, this is a private school. Since my son is in a private school, I know the process quite well. Every year during registration, the parents sign a contract, which includes abiding by the rules and the terms of the school handbook. And yes, it is enforceable.

105 posted on 06/04/2013 1:04:42 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Ditter

>> “I think it was for the protection of our national bird. People were killing eagles for their feathers.” <<

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Seriously?

Eagles soar 2500 feet above the earth, and they lose feathers frequently. There has never been a need to kill an eagle to garner a feather.

That line sounds kike a cousin to global warming.


106 posted on 06/04/2013 1:07:22 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: F15Eagle
Guess we’ll see how it pans out.

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108 posted on 06/04/2013 1:09:02 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

A reasonable penalty is not letting her participate in the ceremony. Anything beyond that is asinine and generally offensive.


109 posted on 06/04/2013 1:09:59 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Jeff Chandler

Is that your girl bragging? :o)


110 posted on 06/04/2013 1:10:54 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
I have serious doubts as to the legitimacy of their claim of Christianity, ...

So you are going to place yourself in the place of God, to determine the sincerity of their faith? You have more chutzpah than me - that is a very dangerous place to stand.

and as to the claim of privacy, I’m sure they accept endowments, and charge for tuition, so they are not likely any more private than a Safeway store.

A "private" school is one that is not a government "public" school. The fact that they accept endowments and charge tuition have absolutely nothing to do with whether they are a private school or not.

111 posted on 06/04/2013 1:12:34 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: lepton

>> “A reasonable penalty is not letting her participate in the ceremony.” <<

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Probably, but they waived that opportunity, thus removing the gravity from their own rule.


112 posted on 06/04/2013 1:12:37 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

You keep your paws off my Hillary.


114 posted on 06/04/2013 1:13:24 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: editor-surveyor

**** “Arbitrary rules are meant to be broken.” ****

I think of it as more of a Duty, no matter if I agree with them or not, besides I enjoy it when I do it.

TT


115 posted on 06/04/2013 1:13:36 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Truth is the new pornography)
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To: steve86
I think she should make an offer of compromise — say an offer of $500 to close the matter — pick up her diploma and then join the real world. Then she can grow up and wait for a few years for her own daughter to do something stupid at her graduation.

Sounds reasonable to me.

116 posted on 06/04/2013 1:13:43 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: editor-surveyor
As does the school. Any guess as to the outcome? Or as to their regrets for being overly rigid?

As long as the school has a properly drafted enrollment contract, the student does not have a case. The only consequence to the school might be bad publicity, but I think most parents who would want to send their kids to a Christian school would consider this GOOD publicity for the school.

117 posted on 06/04/2013 1:16:13 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: rickmichaels
I applaud private businesses and private schools. Even if their rules seems stupid, they have the right to make their own rules. Their customers have the right to stick around or go elsewhere.

She wanted the feather.
They've declined to give her a piece of paper.

Each party is doing what they chose to do.

It's a great country!

And the freepers who are gleefully predicting lucrative lawsuits are symptomatic of why everyone always "lawyers up" and why nothing can be done simply but always needs layers and layers of government/legal paperwork. Too many people want to go their own way -- and make someone else fork over money as some sort of reward for walking the the untrod path.

118 posted on 06/04/2013 1:16:59 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: CA Conservative

>> “So you are going to place yourself in the place of God, to determine the sincerity of their faith?” <<

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Total strawman.

We have God’s word that tells us what Yeshua said during his life, and nothing in the school’s statements, nor actions are in conformance therewith.

A private school is no more private than a grocery store. Both advertise and charge for their product.


119 posted on 06/04/2013 1:17:06 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: F15Eagle

She knew the rules.
She signed the form.
She broke the rules.
She wasn’t allowed to participate.

It sounds like there was problems previously as they had a form.
They should have just mailed her diploma.


120 posted on 06/04/2013 1:20:09 PM PDT by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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