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Gillibrand: Some can’t distinguish between a ‘slap on the ass and a rape’
thehill.com ^ | 06/04/13 | Jeremy Herb

Posted on 06/04/2013 11:07:48 AM PDT by kimtom

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) on Tuesday said some military commanders can’t “distinguish between a slap on the ass and a rape.”

Gillibrand made the comment during a hearing where military leaders made public their opposition to Gillibrand's legislation that would strip commanders of the power to decide where sexual assaults are prosecuted. The New York senator wants prosecutors to decide where such crimes are tried, not commanders.

“While you are all so dedicated and determined, not all commanders are objective,” Gillibrand said. “Not every single commander necessarily wants women in the force. Not every single commander can distinguish between a slap on the ass and a rape.”

Gillibrand argued that sexual assault victims are afraid to report the crimes out of fear of retaliation from their commanders.

“You have lost the trust of the men and women who rely on you that you will actually bring justice in these cases,” Gillibrand said. “They’re afraid to report. They think their careers will be over. They fear retaliation. They fear being blamed.” ......

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 113th; gillibrad; sexscandle; sexualabuse; usmilitary
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Sorry for any repost, but as a x-military member, I can't stand and watch PC/ libs infiltrating and destroying the once "Greatest Military Power on Earth"....
1 posted on 06/04/2013 11:07:48 AM PDT by kimtom
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Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.) on Tuesday said some military commanders can’t “distinguish between a slap on the ass and a rape.”

I don't know if that's supposed to indicate excessive prosecution or not enough prosecution.

2 posted on 06/04/2013 11:09:35 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: kimtom

Get the broads out of the military!


3 posted on 06/04/2013 11:09:48 AM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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Well dear, that’s because for 40 years feminests have been trying to tell us there’s no difference!


4 posted on 06/04/2013 11:10:14 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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Oh goodie. Another "zero tolerance" situation like the ones that have worked so well with guns and schools.

I can just see some poor E-5 getting nailed for displaying the letters "V" or "O" in an inappropriate way

5 posted on 06/04/2013 11:11:51 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: kimtom

Would SONEONE please tell me WHY we EVER wanted New Yawk in the Union.


6 posted on 06/04/2013 11:12:00 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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What a mess and here’s your reason why it is one.

Newsflash. Men and women are different, Missy PC Gillibrand.


7 posted on 06/04/2013 11:12:21 AM PDT by Christie at the beach
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This house of cards will collapse when they find out that many of the assaults are same sex.


8 posted on 06/04/2013 11:15:17 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: kimtom

The mandarins didn’t waste any time between forging the lever (allowing mixed gender units and abolishing prohibitions against homosexuals) and prying the military apart, did they.


9 posted on 06/04/2013 11:16:09 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: miss marmelstein

Get the rude,crude,and socially unacceptable men out.Whatever happened to knowing the bounderies of proper behavior?


10 posted on 06/04/2013 11:16:23 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: jiggyboy
Here is the Danger: they set a precedent by this action, force lib/ protectors -watchers into the organization. This is infiltration, by enemy, They can disrupt capability and induce fear into career minded military members.

This exposes the real reason Femi-Nazis wanted women in , to claim “harassment” and undermine the effectiveness.

(my opinion)

11 posted on 06/04/2013 11:17:00 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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The military exists to enact massive destruction on enemies and kill them with incredible effectiveness. There’s nothing PC about that and I really wish liberals who have never worn the uniform would stop trying to make it so.


12 posted on 06/04/2013 11:17:38 AM PDT by TSgt (More Scott Roeders and fewer Tillers and Gosnells)
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far more guys get raped in the military and get far less support and help for it. there’s the real under-reported story.


13 posted on 06/04/2013 11:18:10 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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“distinguish between a slap on the ass and a rape.”

I think she is right about this point but I strongly doubt she knows what point she is really supporting. We are chewing up a huge amount of critical readiness resources all because we’ve put ourselves in this box...no pun intended. And it’s isn’t just females as rapees but males as well.


14 posted on 06/04/2013 11:19:57 AM PDT by Portcall24
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She may be right. Not every single commander may be able to distinguish between a pat on the ass and rape, but certainly the vast majority of commanders are able to do so. What makes her think the (in)justice system is better able to make the same distinction? BTW, a pat on the ass may or may not require commander action, speaking as ex-military, depending on the circumstances. Discretion is best left to commanders in order to resolve issues at the lowest possible level and most efficient manner.
15 posted on 06/04/2013 11:20:42 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: TSgt
"...military exists to enact massive destruction ..."

PC will destroy their effectiveness. That, I believe is the goal.

This is will take time to correct. Given the nature of our enemies, i.e. Muslims (extreme) and instability in Asia, we're going to get hurt........

16 posted on 06/04/2013 11:21:52 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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All class that Senator from New York. The military, whom she feels she has to talk to in their language (roughly speaking), has more class than she. What an embarrassment.

Get the women out or in back line support, they have no reason to be in the mix.

Better yet, how about ONLY WOMEN in the military? Let them fight the wars.


17 posted on 06/04/2013 11:22:57 AM PDT by BatGuano (You don't think I'd go into combat with loose change in my pocket, do ya?)
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To: skeeter

I’m not so sure they want to destroy the military as much as they want to destroy the CHARACTER of the military -

so they can use it against their political enemies in their own country.


18 posted on 06/04/2013 11:23:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: CitizenUSA
“...Discretion is best left to commanders in order to resolve issues at the lowest possible level and most efficient manner....”

That is how it is suppose to work.

But, belt-way “commanders” and “civies” want control!!!!

Perhaps they intend to build a “new” military to use against the people.
Lat I checked , the military “was” mostly Conservative pro America types.

19 posted on 06/04/2013 11:25:47 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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