Posted on 06/03/2013 9:36:15 AM PDT by neverdem
Senator Ted Cruz offered a solution to the IRS’s scandal: get rid of the agency entirely and simplify the tax code so that tax returns fit on a piece of paper the size of a postcard.
“We ought to abolish the IRS and instead move to a simple flat tax,” Cruz said on Fox News over the weekend.
“Put down how much you earn, put down a deduction for charitable contributions, for home mortgage, and how much you owe,” he continued. “It ought to be just a simple, one-page postcard.”...
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Same here, and put the states back in place, as a barrier between individuals and the federal government as the founders intended.
When they have control making more money is easy.
>> I was able to sign the petition however.
So given what we know now, you’re going to sign a petition to eliminate the IRS... which will I presume be sent to the FedGov and end up in the hands of the IRS?
Man, you’ve got SACK. Brains I’m not sure... but *major* nutsack. :-)
;-)
>> In an effort to be fair, injustice results
What you term “injustice” could be corrected by Christian charity, if we would only practice such. Then government could keep it simple, in a way that is *mostly* fair.
I’ve toyed with the idea of running. The problem is my current location of Colorado. Unless the conservatives have a huge resurgence, this is not the state to get elected.
However, the idea still has merit and I believe that with enough interest, a coalition of voters from across the US can band together and start getting the idea circulated. It will certainly be resisted by the establishment so much of the work will have to be done at the state level first. The trick is to first get organized.
I am willing to take the lead in getting things together but I do not have much experience with this type of issue promotion.
The only deduction should be for charitable deductions. Nothing else.
The states already have the mechanisms and agencies in place to collect state sales taxes at the cash register. Move to a national sales tax, and the states can collect it the same way, then forward the federals' portion to the Treasury Dept.
We wouldn't need the 16th Amendment or the IRS if it were set up that way. It would sever the vacuum hose of government into our pockets.
Yeah, that’s exactly what I think of a flat tax - that it will be “flat” for about 20 seconds until someone wants to make it more “fair”...
And it’s still an income tax - inherently immoral.
An income tax penalizes you based on the measure of what you provide to the economy.
A consumption tax penalizes you based on what you take out and use.
“Never let a good crisis go to waste”
Time Republicans started playing that game, too.
Count me in. Just go ahead and do the house cleaning, and abolish the 16th, while we’re at it, incase some greasy / corrupt ‘crat gets later ideas...
Go Ted Cruz!
Precisely, which is why the way we tax Americans today makes no sense.
The current form of federal taxation is a penalty on production, which is exactly what you don't want, if your intention is to grow a thriving economy that provides plenty for everyone (who will work).
In my view, those who've nurtured and grown this diabolical system, understand that honest, hard working people will shoulder that punitive burden. Ironically, it's the honest, hard working fellow that enables the politicians to reward their favored constituencies while shunting him to the back of the bus. It's a plainly evil system that has got to go.
yeah, if... but this is NOT the goal of the left.
Abolition of the 16th Amendment and the IRS has always been a part of the Fair Tax legislation. A lot of people have failed to understand that, and have thought that it would become an additional tax, on top of the income tax. Not true. It completely replaces the current system.
If we can get the critters up on Capitol Hill to seriously begin discussing it, then we can delve down into the finer details.
The "no deductions" idea sounds great until you try to apply it. Consider two people. One of them works for an employer and receives $X/year. Apply a flat tax to his income. The other is a private consultant whose work brings in $X/year. Applying a flat tax to his income isn't the same as for the employee. The consultant has expenses (computer, telephone, office supplies, travel to clients, etc.) that are necessary for him to generate income. The employee has no such expenses. Surely the consultant should be allowed to deduct those expenses from his income. The same applies to any small business owner. The expenses incurred in generating his income should be deductible before applying the flat tax.
The retail sales tax avoids these problems. You buy something, you pay the sales tax, regardless of whether it's a computer for your kids to do their schoolwork on, or a computer for your business.
The retailer doesn't need any deductions either, since he's paying the tax on his gross rather than on his profit, which involves deducting expenses from gross.
Simpler to administer, and avoids tax returns for most of the people.
Oh, they want a thriving economy alright. They just want you and I to pull the wagon, while they and their friends ride for free.
Well, the mules are sick to death of the deal, and are about to quit pulling.
Never happen. How many accountants, tax att’s HR block peoples would be out of work now!
I don’t know wich is worse the IRS or the Accountant They both know when they have you over a barrel!
Fir instance, someone is DoD proposed to contract out the commissary system. The interested parties descended like a ton of bricks on him.
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