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Mark Levin: Obama Not Destroying GOP, Republican Establishment Is
realclearpolitics.com ^ | January 29, 2013

Posted on 06/02/2013 8:26:04 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012

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1 posted on 06/02/2013 8:26:04 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: ilovesarah2012
Mark Levin: Obama Not Destroying GOP, Republican Establishment Is

BRAVO!

2 posted on 06/02/2013 8:27:20 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: ilovesarah2012

I’m sure this article warrants an appearance from Captain Obvious.


3 posted on 06/02/2013 8:31:20 AM PDT by Le Chien Rouge
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To: ilovesarah2012

The Great One is right. Zero is God’s gift to conservatives and to the GOP. The party hacks cannot get out of their own way and make a meaningful case to the politically literate half of our country to get our country back to Reagan values. The hacks are as self-interested as Zero is in maintaining their posh positions of power.


4 posted on 06/02/2013 8:31:29 AM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: ilovesarah2012

The former McCotter seat in Michigan went full tea party with Kerry Bentivolio.

McCotter was a likable enough guy but actually very moderate


5 posted on 06/02/2013 8:34:50 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ilovesarah2012
I have been urging since the election debacle that we approach the election loss the way the Democrats would, by a ruthless examination of the data and a thorough analysis of the demographics. To my knowledge there has been no serious study released telling us exactly why we lost the election. Please keep in mind the context, virtually all of us went into election night thinking we were going to win. That demonstrates that we were not even in the game. To this day we still do not know, on a scientific basis, what happened.

All of the exhortations, even those made by Mark Levine my favorite radio personality, to the effect that we must move to the right are based on ideology and not data. There is, however, one remark that Mark Levin made with which there can be absolutely no dispute:

"a feckless RNC, a preposterously incompetent get-out-the-vote operation,"

We need no more data to know that that get out the vote election night fiasco compels heads to roll.


6 posted on 06/02/2013 8:37:55 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: DoughtyOne

I’m calling shenanigans on Levin. He argues that this isn’t a purity test but the party needs to be cleaned out ....purged? This is what the hard left does. His reasoning is that by purging the party we will bring in a new breed that ...knows what it stands for. Levin’s stupid here. This is politics much of it’s local. What works on Texas not in Connecticut. I’m with William Buckley.Run the most conservative candidate that can win.


7 posted on 06/02/2013 8:41:22 AM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: nathanbedford

The answer is simple - cigarettes and wine.

Seriously, I think, at least in the presidential election, we need a better candidate who stands for something.


8 posted on 06/02/2013 8:41:42 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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Make no mistake, I am a knuckle dragging, foaming at the mouth, flopping on the floor conservative.

But I want to win and I want to be able to convince the fatcat Republican contributors and the Rino establishment that we need to be conservative to win. Otherwise we are just exchanging dueling opinions with the left wing Republican establishment and they have won that game cycle after cycle.

We need hard data. Where is Michael Barone when you need him? Gingrich promised a complete study but I have not seen or heard of it yet.


9 posted on 06/02/2013 8:50:24 AM PDT by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Blackirish
I’m with William Buckley. Run the most conservative candidate that can win.

The problem with Buckley's advocacy in that manner, is that ultimately it results in an atmosphere where nobody is educated with regard to what is truly sound policy.

Lose me four elections in a row fighting for truly sound policy. By the fifth or sixth election, the Democrats will have helped you prove your point. Then the public will choose your team and policy in your local, state, and federal government will move back to the right.

We can't win electing Democrats from the Republican party.

What Buckley advocates for, results in our side not being able to pass anything, because our own party members vote against sound policy.

10 posted on 06/02/2013 8:55:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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Mark Levin: Obama Not Destroying GOP, Republican Establishment Is

Led by people like Tokyo Rove and RINO McCain.

11 posted on 06/02/2013 8:56:21 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: nathanbedford
To this day we still do not know, on a scientific basis, what happened.

At least three things happened:

1. Massive, massive voter fraud, the smallest 1% of the iceberg has been exposed. Let's hope for more, much more.

2. Many grass roots Conservatives saw no reason to vote for Mitt Romney.

3. How do you compete with Santa Claus*? To my knowledge, there's been no response to this by any Conservative.

*Raging, over the top numbers of Americans on Medicaid and food stamps are two examples.

12 posted on 06/02/2013 9:02:04 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Warning that on posts here during 2012 election .And been writing why since about as long as Levin has.
Here are the reasons
http://www.theusmat.com

Add to that the black vote. Romney’s heavy handed blasts and smears against opponents did not only include Bachmann it also included Cain aided by the RINOS and the GOPES (government of the people elite snobs) on Romney’s one man band wagon.


13 posted on 06/02/2013 9:02:26 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Don Corleone
Mark Levin: Obama Not Destroying GOP, Republican Establishment Is

The republican party in my view is going through a shakeout.
Over the years, the republicans inside the beltway (the establishment) have drifted off of center and they are now being trued back to basic principles.

14 posted on 06/02/2013 9:09:37 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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To: Blackirish

Huh? He is arguing that that national party has failed and will continue to fail without new leadership. He’s 100% accurate. I think you are confusing candidate selection in different states with party organization. The party organization is a failure and is losing.


15 posted on 06/02/2013 9:26:30 AM PDT by ilgipper (The lesson for the GOP is simple - don't let the opposition define you)
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To: DoughtyOne

Obama never had any power to diminish or destroy the Republican party in the least. Sure, he can call names, and run blitzes at them through the arm of the Democrat Liberal party known as the press, but that does not excuse foot-dragging by supposed elites among the Republicans in the least.

Only the Republicans could choose to be defeated by this barrage, or strive for victory. 2010 was highly instructive, that by tapping into a grass roots that had been largely ignored (the T.E.A. people), the Republicans could undertake a much-needed renaissance.

But for 2012, the Republicans, instead of nurturing this important resource, have allowed them to either die on the vine, or have actively tried to shut them out. Ad hominem attacks against the T.E.A. activists were either ignored by the Republican establishment, or they seemed to join in them.

What was allowed to happen to Herman Cain was shameful in the extreme. Nobody in the establishment came forward with the counter arguments to the charges launched against Cain by the Chicago machine, when it was obvious to just about anybody that David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel were part of that manufactured crisis. It was too important to protect Mitt Romney from other Republicans

Could Herman Cain have won? The proposition was left untried because it was found to have been “too difficult”.

The “safe” candidate was not so much elected, as simply anointed. This “my turn” frame of thinking has to be phased out, else we have perennial candidates in every election cycle, with varying degrees of seniority, and a sense of entitlement not supported by actual accomplishments.

In it to win it, or go home. Sometimes “winning” is not the goal that is actually being sought.

“Social acceptance” is a very poor second.


16 posted on 06/02/2013 9:42:05 AM PDT by alloysteel (If you want to see the true measure of a man, watch how he treats his inferiors, not his equals.)
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To: NohSpinZone

It’s not that they can’t get out of their own way. It’s that they like big government as long as they are in charge.. That is why they are always in search of a new “message”. The GOP establishment types don’t want a message of limited government.


17 posted on 06/02/2013 9:58:20 AM PDT by Personal Responsibility (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act - Orwell)
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To: alloysteel
Obama never had any power to diminish or destroy the Republican party in the least. Sure, he can call names, and run blitzes at them through the arm of the Democrat Liberal party known as the press, but that does not excuse foot-dragging by supposed elites among the Republicans in the least.  I agree.

Only the Republicans could choose to be defeated by this barrage, or strive for victory. 2010 was highly instructive, that by tapping into a grass roots that had been largely ignored (the T.E.A. people), the Republicans could undertake a much-needed renaissance. 
I agree.  I must add though..., that this problem actually reared it's ugly head in 1996.  From Bob Dole on the Republican party has failed to embrace it's core base.  Look at Bush unable to beat the likes of Gore or Kerry by more than the skin on his teeth.  McCain and Romney were unable to beat the likes of Obama.  Reagan would have clearly defined the differences between the two ideologies, and have won by a landslide.

But for 2012, the Republicans, instead of nurturing this important resource, have allowed them to either die on the vine, or have actively tried to shut them out. Ad hominem attacks against the T.E.A. activists were either ignored by the Republican establishment, or they seemed to join in them.
  I totally agree.  That's why I read comments by folks like Pribus, and wince.  He'll say this now, and then he'll help kill off any Conservative that runs for the prescidency in 2016.  He'll join talking-head forums where a guy like Rove will slander Conservative after Conservative, and sit there quiet as a church-mouse.  The RNC IS THE PROBLEM.  I wouldn't donate a dime to the Republican party if my shorts were on fire and they had a bucket of water handy.  They'd pour three quarters of it into a Democrat bucket, and spill the rest on the ground and tell me to roll in it, before simply pouring it on the fire.

What was allowed to happen to Herman Cain was shameful in the extreme. Nobody in the establishment came forward with the counter arguments to the charges launched against Cain by the Chicago machine, when it was obvious to just about anybody that David Axelrod and Rahm Emanuel were part of that manufactured crisis. It was too important to protect Mitt Romney from other Republicans. 
I agree.  The stupid (Republican) party thinks they can only win by going Left.  Someone needs to remind them that if a person wants a Leftist, the Democrats are running the real thing.

Could Herman Cain have won? The proposition was left untried because it was found to have been “too difficult”. 
Whether he would have won or not, it certainly would have shut the mouth of the folks who say our criticisms of Obama are only about race.  No, it's about failed disgusting policy.

The “safe” candidate was not so much elected, as simply anointed. This “my turn” frame of thinking has to be phased out, else we have perennial candidates in every election cycle, with varying degrees of seniority, and a sense of entitlement not supported by actual accomplishments. 
Once again I agree.  May I introduce Bob Dole as exhibit # 1.

In it to win it, or go home. Sometimes “winning” is not the goal that is actually being sought. 
I'm not sure where you're headed here.  If you explained it a bit, I'd probably agree.

“Social acceptance” is a very poor second.
  Agreed.
18 posted on 06/02/2013 10:03:38 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Funny thing happened on the way to the Constitution burning, Lefties rights were violated...)
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To: ilovesarah2012

This is where our anger an outrage should be directed, at the R esablishment. We already know that the communist Democratic Party is not going to change.


19 posted on 06/02/2013 10:12:26 AM PDT by doc
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Both parties are destroying the GOP.

What we need is to look out for America.

America.

That is not what we are doing. What is happening now, is we are selling out America so that we can make stuff cheaper, than the guy down the street.

The problem is, we are making stuff cheaper than the guy down the street, by buying the stuff from communist China.

China is now the largest exporter in the world.

We need to realize we have a serious competition on our hand, and it is here, right now.

But American.


20 posted on 06/02/2013 10:15:59 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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