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NOURIEL ROUBINI: 6 Reasons Why Gold Will Plunge To $1,000
Business Insider ^ | 6-2-2013 | Joe Weisenthal

Posted on 06/02/2013 6:02:49 AM PDT by blam

NOURIEL ROUBINI: 6 Reasons Why Gold Will Plunge To $1,000

Joe Weisenthal
Jun. 1, 2013, 4:27 PM

Gold has been getting poleaxed in recent months, though it remains just below $1400/oz.

In a piece up at Project Syndicate, economist Nouriel Roubini says gold will fall to around $1,000 before the end of 2015.

He gives six reasons why.

We summarize:

* Gold spikes during extreme crises. The crises are over.

* Gold does well during periods when there's a risk of high inflation. That clearly is no longer a big worry, given how much central banks have unsuccessfully tried to stoke even modest inflation.

* Now with the economy recovering, nobody wants to be in rocks that don't pay any dividends.

* Real interest rates are rising. That kills gold. Governments with debt issues are selling gold.

* Gold was juiced by right-wing fanatics in the US. That boom is over.

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KEYWORDS: commodities; economy; gold; goldprice; investing
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1 posted on 06/02/2013 6:02:49 AM PDT by blam
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To: Jet Jaguar
Gold Price Moves Are Really About US Home Prices
2 posted on 06/02/2013 6:04:35 AM PDT by blam
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3 posted on 06/02/2013 6:05:16 AM PDT by blam
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4 posted on 06/02/2013 6:07:06 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

The only way that gold will fall is if we have a general commodity collapse.

That could happen.

But the US is facing a total disaster on wheat production this year. The cattle herds have been sold off in huge numbers because of the drought in the Southwest and at some point as rain returns beef prices will spike.

Gold? You cannot eat it. Wheat & cattle you can if you can afford it.


5 posted on 06/02/2013 6:07:35 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: blam

I am always wary of “advisers” who refer to “right wing fanatics”.


6 posted on 06/02/2013 6:08:20 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: blam

The only reason he gave that is even real is that real interest rates are rising. “Gov’ts with debt issues are selling gold”; not sure where he’s going with that one, I always thought that whoever ends up with the most gold wins.
The price of paper gold may be pushed down, but there is now a disconnect between that and physical gold.


7 posted on 06/02/2013 6:11:24 AM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Texas Fossil

If the dollar becomes worthless, with what would you pay for that scarce beef or grain?


8 posted on 06/02/2013 6:11:32 AM PDT by old curmudgeon
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To: old curmudgeon
Posted Yesterday:

There Are Economic Storm Clouds Ahead (Robert Reich)

9 posted on 06/02/2013 6:17:21 AM PDT by blam
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To: Texas Fossil
Gold? You cannot eat it.

That's just one of the reasons it makes good money.

10 posted on 06/02/2013 6:18:21 AM PDT by BfloGuy (Don't try to explain yourself to liberals; you're not the jackass-whisperer.)
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To: Texas Fossil

There is “paper” gold and there is physical “in your hands” gold. The latter has a substantial premium - the market is saying something.


11 posted on 06/02/2013 6:20:01 AM PDT by glorgau
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To: Texas Fossil
Those Inscrutable, UnKeynesian Chinese Buying Gold

"Perhaps now you know why the Chinese are buying up so much gold – hundreds of tons of it at a crack, and more and more all the time! As are other peoples and central banks! – and why they are thus going to have a very strong currency, and why they are going to have a vibrant, self-sustaining economy based on real demand, instead of depending on the fake demand caused by both government deficit-spending and everybody borrowing themselves into bankruptcy to consume things."

12 posted on 06/02/2013 6:25:41 AM PDT by blam
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To: BfloGuy
You got that right.

When fiat dies, everyone is going to rediscover the concept of 'coincidence of wants'. They will find out what money is for and why we value things that act as money.

13 posted on 06/02/2013 6:25:52 AM PDT by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: Texas Fossil

Am I going to have to pull out the bingo card again?


14 posted on 06/02/2013 6:27:39 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: old curmudgeon

A lot.

We sold our small herd of cattle 2 years ago. Have not repurchased because of lack of winter grazing. You cannot afford to feed them grain & hay all winter without winter pasture. No rain, No pasture.

At some point, soon, the price will spike.

Last year we made 1/2 the normal wheat crop. This year is looks like 1/4 the normal. And we are lucky, 90% of the acreage planted was so bad that they will never harvest it, claim the insurance. Locally, seed wheat will be extremely scarce this fall. I am in the process of looking out of state for a way to supplement that. Not sure it is practical, but we shall see.


15 posted on 06/02/2013 6:28:08 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: jiggyboy

No, we are on the same page.


16 posted on 06/02/2013 6:29:51 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: old curmudgeon

I am hoping that we avoid the dollar collapse, due to the fact that all other currencies are worse than ours.

Everyone talks about the ChiComs buying gold, but surely no one would trust the ChiComs character. They have their own problems too.

With the right leadership, the US can make a quick turn around. But it will require more than trimming the ship.

Men are vein enough to think they control their destiny, but that is a job for one with a higher rank.


17 posted on 06/02/2013 6:33:39 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: blam
1. Gold spikes during extreme crises. The crises are over.
"Really? The Fed is creating money out of thin air like there's no tomorrow. They're reinflating the housing bubble. There's no economic growth. There's no increase in economic freedom, which is the foundation of a functioning economy."

2. Gold does well during periods when there's a risk of high inflation. That clearly is no longer a big worry, given how much central banks have unsuccessfully tried to stoke even modest inflation.
"Inflation is NOT rising prices. It is the increase in the supply of money. The Fed is creating $85 billion a month. That's inflation on an unprecedented scale."

3. Now with the economy recovering, nobody wants to be in rocks that don't pay any dividends.
"Ah, what recovery? Is he talking US or Europe or world? Europe unemployment has hit new peaks. In the US graduates can't find any jobs. And can you believe government stats?"

4. Real interest rates are rising. That kills gold. Governments with debt issues are selling gold.
"Maybe all that thin air money is finally hitting the real economy, that you need higher returns to make up for losses due to inflation."

5. Gold was juiced by right-wing fanatics in the US. That boom is over.
"Hmmm, I didn't realize Central Banks were American and right wing fanatics to boot. How about those Indians, Chinese and Arabs buying gold?"

18 posted on 06/02/2013 6:42:22 AM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (.Are they stupid, malicious or evil?)
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To: blam

This and most other economic predictions will prove to be wrong and no one will remember.

Here’s one. Only this one is right. The ruling elite will give itself more dollars to compensate for their reduced buying power.


19 posted on 06/02/2013 6:43:19 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: old curmudgeon

“Right-wing fanatics” = anyone who still believes that uncontrolled government spending and debt are bad.


20 posted on 06/02/2013 6:43:56 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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