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"In the new regulatory age, presidents and Congress can still change the government’s priorities, but the agencies effectively run the show based on their interpretations and discretion. The rise of this fourth branch represents perhaps the single greatest change in our system of government since the founding. We cannot long protect liberty if our leaders continue to act like mere bystanders to the work of government."
1 posted on 05/26/2013 3:12:36 AM PDT by Jacquerie
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" Chief Justice John Roberts warned: “It would be a bit much to describe the result as ‘the very definition of tyranny,’"

No. In fact it wouldn't be "a bit much" at all."
2 posted on 05/26/2013 3:17:26 AM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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Question: Why didn't this extreme power shift to unaccountable bureaucrats begin in the 18th century? Why did Congress wait until the 20th century to assign much of its law making duties to executive agencies?
3 posted on 05/26/2013 3:18:52 AM PDT by Jacquerie (To restore the 10th Amendment, repeal the 17th.)
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“The autonomy was magnified when the Supreme Court ruled in 1984 that agencies are entitled to heavy deference in their interpretations of laws. The court went even further this past week, ruling that agencies should get the same heavy deference in determining their own jurisdictions — a power that was previously believed to rest with Congress. In his dissent in Arlington v. FCC, Chief Justice John Roberts warned: “It would be a bit much to describe the result as ‘the very definition of tyranny,’ but the danger posed by the growing power of the administrative state cannot be dismissed.””

I have run into the tiny tin-pot bureaucrat who has no power in their personal life, but the power of saying “no” in their professional life. When a child turns two and discovers the power of “no” you hear it thousands of times a day. That’s the only power they have so the exercise it extensively.

People who can make illogical and stupid rules do so because they have the power to do it. (Clinton’s excuse for the blow jobs was, “because I could.”) Congress needs to either defund these out of control agencies (IRS, EPA, et. al.) or re-write the laws so the agencies are specifically told what they can do, and more importantly, what they can’t do.

Every agency you can think of has been infiltrated and is now controlled by the agenda-laden left.


4 posted on 05/26/2013 3:23:59 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Hogwash! This is nothing more than the Washington compost trying to make excuses. People who run these agencies are political appointees put in charged by the President. They kowtow to the wishes of the President and implement his direction. Do you think for a moment that if liberal groups were targeted this President wouldn’t be throwing people in jail?

What you have here with the DOJ/FoxNews scandal, the IRS, Benganzi, etc is nothing more than an orchestrated agenda set by this President. The MSM, which has tried so desperately to hide all of this now finds itself in a position to cover their rears.


5 posted on 05/26/2013 3:25:05 AM PDT by HarleyD
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The autonomy was magnified when the Supreme Court ruled in 1984 that agencies are entitled to heavy deference in their interpretations of laws.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The People need to Change that ruling and Congress needs to pass the necessary law that no regulation can usurp or expand the plain meaning of any statutory provision.

If Congress bans the federal regulation of Coffee, then that also means Cappuccino. We are being ruled by socialista bureaucrats.They are ruining the country.

Why should such madness even be funded by taxes and a criminal IRS?


6 posted on 05/26/2013 3:25:37 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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BTTT


8 posted on 05/26/2013 3:36:01 AM PDT by Fzob (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle, stand like a rock. Jefferson)
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I have been saying for years that it isn’t the laws that we have to fear so much as regulations.

One lone Bureaucrat sitting in an office making up their own rules.

You can fight the law, but regulations are pretty much cast in stone.

A good example is the regulation authority of Sebelius in the Health Care Bill and the authority of Napolitano at immigration.Al;so Holder ate Justice.

They are running rogue agencies with far too much power.

Why do they get away with it? Congress is too friggin lazy to buck them.


10 posted on 05/26/2013 3:48:01 AM PDT by Venturer
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11 posted on 05/26/2013 3:53:58 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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I find this liberal discussion of a government too big to govern amusing. In their liberal lexicon, big government has always had all the answers. Now that their Messiah’s incompetence, laziness, inability to lead, and to work is self-evident, their excuse is it is not his fault, no one can properly manage the big government. They would sooner attack their main socialist pillar of big government than place blame on Zero. Just more liberal media propaganda and deception.
12 posted on 05/26/2013 3:58:16 AM PDT by iontheball
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They have managed to bypass congress and to some of our congressman and women this is fine. Remember sen. conyers(dope) who made this comment, “ I dont have time to read this bill it’s 2500 pages”


14 posted on 05/26/2013 4:08:17 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (Yesterdays conspiracies are todays truths)
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It is TIME to DownSize DC!

CLOSE, ELIMINATE entire Rogue Departments, many of which are clearly Unconstitutional.

Move any worthwhile functions back to the states where they can be more properly administered.

Department of Energy (except the military functions which should be included in the military complex)

Department of Education (which is more accurately the Department of brainwashing), including their SWAT Teams

Environmental Protection Department

and on an on.

It is TIME to move the center-of-gravity of the Federal Government back to the States where it belongs.


25 posted on 05/26/2013 4:48:57 AM PDT by Texas Fossil
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4th branch — Valarie Jarrett


30 posted on 05/26/2013 5:01:51 AM PDT by bigbob
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The Know Nothing Party — that is a perfect name for the party that knows nothing about the Bill of Rights except for the 5th Amendment and probably can’t even cite that properly.


32 posted on 05/26/2013 5:02:34 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Sure is interesting to see Turley say stuff like this...one who has seemed to consistently back the oppressive policies of Demon Rats.


36 posted on 05/26/2013 5:10:02 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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as if the government functioned by some hidden hand FIST!

This is why I have always opposed term limits. The Forth Branch barely listen as it is, what happens when they make the bosses temporary?

42 posted on 05/26/2013 5:16:34 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (We say "low-information" but we mean "low-intelligence")
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The permanent bureaucracy in DC is liberal and votes Obama. Its hiring policies slant gay/minority/black/female. Those are your administrative rulers in DC. AKA — The managerial class. The nomenclatura

Every freeper should read this article 10 times


46 posted on 05/26/2013 5:20:31 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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That elected officials hand over their sworn obligations to bureaucratic civil service people is also rampant at the state and local government levels. These politicians are onto the catch that their election depends upon these ‘civil servants’ who have embedded themselves and friends into the government. That civil servants can collectively by personal choice shut government down by unionization is a demonstrated fact of life.


49 posted on 05/26/2013 5:29:50 AM PDT by noinfringers2
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The natural ‘enemy’ of a bloated bureaucracy is the people who resent paying for it... that’s us. This just keeps getting more and more charming...


50 posted on 05/26/2013 5:33:30 AM PDT by GOPJ (It's Gotten So Bad for Obama Fox News Changed Its Slogan to "See. I Told You So!"- Leno)
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It is my understanding that the agencies develop the regulations that are then interpreted by rules. The rules are often actually written after proper study, by contractors.

This hidden mega bureaucracy of contractor rule writers is huge.


57 posted on 05/26/2013 6:00:27 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 .....Obama Denies Role in Government)
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Let’s start the next form of government - Independent - Going back to what the founding fathers developed - limited government.


58 posted on 05/26/2013 6:03:13 AM PDT by hondact200 (Candor dat viribos alas (sincerity gives wings to strength) and Nil desperandum (never despair))
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