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SHIPMAN: The biggest tax catch: Obama may go angling for a levy on wealth
Washington Times ^ | 05/09/2013 | By William G. Shipman

Posted on 05/09/2013 6:51:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

While pundits, politicians and economists are distracted by marginal tax rates and a possible Internet sales tax, President Obama may be preparing for the biggest of all trophies: a wealth tax. He doesn’t say this, of course, but he is baiting his hook, and looking for the optimal place and time to cast his line. Most people don’t see this coming. Should it happen, though, it will be very difficult to protect yourself.

This all started — at least the public part — with the president’s 2014 budget, which proposes to limit tax-deductible saving to an amount that will provide an annual benefit of $205,000. The budget document states that “the maximum accumulation that would apply for an individual at age 62 is approximately $3.4 million.”

Putting the numbers aside for the moment, this initiative targets one’s wealth as well as one’s income. If an individual’s tax-qualified wealth — both defined contribution and benefit plans — approximates $3.4 million, then future tax-deductible contributions would not be allowed. If the level drops below $3.4 million, say because of poor market returns, then additional contributions would be allowed. If it is already above $3.4 million, it is not clear how, or if, the excess would be taxed. At the moment, only tax-qualified wealth is targeted. The budget document also suggests that retirees need only $205,000 in annual income.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obama; taxes; wealthtax
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1 posted on 05/09/2013 6:51:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

The Kleptocrat Party, enabled by the Kleptican Party, is determined to turn America into a permanent Kleptocracy.


2 posted on 05/09/2013 7:02:55 AM PDT by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: SeekAndFind

That means you’ll have to sell some of your property to pay your taxes, and the feral government can pick it up at bargain-basement prices.


3 posted on 05/09/2013 7:03:02 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Moslems reserve the right to detonate anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually the internet tax pees me off way more than this.


4 posted on 05/09/2013 7:10:25 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Buffett and other wealthy people backed Obama thinking they could focus his redistribution efforts on those who were trying to accumulate wealth instead of those who are already wealthy. They are about to discover the Marxists will be going after them.


5 posted on 05/09/2013 7:10:58 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This will drive investment in hard assetts, such as gold & silver. (which will go unreported,irrespective any “registration” requirement.)

It will also drive property ownership into family trusts or corporations.

It will devistate charities, which is fine with the socialists who prefer folks be dependent on government, and make the correlation to vote buying more direct.

It should also serve to kill the democrats in the 2016 elections.


6 posted on 05/09/2013 7:12:10 AM PDT by G Larry (Darkness Hates the Light)
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To: SeekAndFind

Just a point:

Bring back US jobs. Then we would not have to raise taxes.


7 posted on 05/09/2013 7:13:29 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: SeekAndFind
Islam's Sharia law prescribes a tax on wealth. It's called zakat, and it's supposed to be 2 1/2 % of assets. It's one contributing factor for Muslim nations staying poor.
8 posted on 05/09/2013 7:14:23 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Given that the Rat Party is,in fact,today's party of the obscenely wealthy this proposal will probably have ways for the “connected” to get around it contained in the 3000 page bill or it will be a very tough sell...particularly in the Senate.It would be particularly fun to see the likes of Feinstein speaking in favor.
9 posted on 05/09/2013 7:15:35 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is weird, I was talking to a fellow a couple of month’s ago about something like this. He said that this country had been ‘prepared’ for actions like this. He said that people today want instant gratification and they don’t want to work for wealth and the things that wealth can buy. They want it and they want it ‘now’.

And then he said that if this came to pass then he thought that the next big craze would be hunting for politicians and bureaucrats.

Frankly, people I’m worried, if it isn’t one thing it’s another out of D.C. and they seem to have one goal in mind. They want the public to either accede to all of their demands or they want a Civil War. Either way they think they will ‘win’ in the end.


10 posted on 05/09/2013 7:16:43 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: SeekAndFind
Warren Buffet loves this. The wealthy will shelter cash in Life Insurance instruments that will pay a benefit to heirs. Follow the money.
11 posted on 05/09/2013 7:17:02 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll take up armed revolution against wealth confiscation.


12 posted on 05/09/2013 7:17:28 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (All observant Muslims want to kill you. If they don't, they are not really Muslims.)
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To: SeekAndFind
We already have a HUGE wealth tax. It's just not called that, so as to not alarm us frog bathers...

Indeed, it's called by different names: Quantitative Easing, $85 Billion per month, etc...

13 posted on 05/09/2013 7:17:54 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: SeekAndFind

Surprise! America is so far in the hole that I really believe it would take generations to recover and then if we a lucky. America is damn to far gone.


14 posted on 05/09/2013 7:18:34 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: SeekAndFind

Now he is going to anger wealthy democrats.

This is a big mistake from many angles, but political suicide is a new one for Obama


15 posted on 05/09/2013 7:19:21 AM PDT by kidd
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To: SeekAndFind
I'd love to see the IRS given the authority to seize all but $750,000 of Soros’s net worth and all but $75,000 of his yearly household income.His would still be better off than 95% of the nations households but he'd still squeal like a pig.As would Michael Moore and Rosie O’Donuts.
16 posted on 05/09/2013 7:20:04 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think we are getting awfully close to a 51% tipping point that will stand-up and cheer for this.


17 posted on 05/09/2013 7:22:45 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: G Larry
It should also serve to kill the democrats in the 2016 elections.

It is impossible to kill the democrats. They have driven most Americans so far in the hole that their dependency on handouts leave no choice but to keep the free money flow.

18 posted on 05/09/2013 7:23:18 AM PDT by Logical me
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Look for Warren Buffet’s fingerprints all over this.

That is largely how he required companies in the last.


19 posted on 05/09/2013 7:23:36 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: G Larry

“This will drive investment in hard assetts, such as gold & silver. (which will go unreported,irrespective any “registration” requirement.)”

This will also cause those who have diligently invested in IRA’s and 401K’s all their working lives to figure out ways to relocate their assets off-shore. Heck, I might even move along with my investments!


20 posted on 05/09/2013 7:24:16 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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