NC Pastor Raided

Marble Hill Constitution-News ^ | May 3, 2013 | ALADERMANLACY

[johnsmom]

"I am in pain and moderate shock from what just happened which I am trying to write about. It is 4 am and I am still not calmed down enough to sleep! Tonight 6-10+ male Law enforcement Officers in heavy body armor broke into my home and did much destruction. I am injured, but do not know how bad."

That is the beginning of a Facebook post that I received late Wednesday / early Thursday morning. The post came from Tim Manning a 62-year-old pastor who resides in Kernersville, NC. Manning states that he was on the phone with his mother when:

"They busted-in my front door of this $300,000+ home and busted-in a set of rear French doors. Then they set a diversionary explosive grenade in...."

[CodeToad]

“Better wait for the full story before firing up the conspiracy theories.”

Unless that son was actively engaged in hostile fire there was no reason to bust into the home like that. Ever.

[AppyPappy]

Read the thread.

[AppyPappy]

Did you read this part?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3016019/posts?page=22#22
Pointed a gun at some kids. When is there a reason for that?

[don-o]

I’ll have to answer my own question. What we know is that the son is alleged to have threatened with a gun. He denied that he did. That is what we know.

[AppyPappy]

So maybe we should wait to find out what happened.

One person in the article commented that Manning wouldn’t open the door even though the police had a warrant.

[Venturer]

Perhaps he did impersonate a law officer, or an insurance agent.

Does that mean they couldn’t knock on the door and arrest him at a decent hour.

Do they really need the SWAT gear to arrest an impersonator?

Do they need to toss stun grenades into the home.

I cannot knock them too much at least it appears they had the right home this time.

[Defiant]

I guess John Kerry was right about the behavior of US troops.

[goat granny]

When I worked at the hospital, one night the cops brought in a young kid in handcuffs...(he had somehow injured himself so the cops brought him in to be checked by a doctor....(cough cough, he injured himself) I noted when he was sitting on the side of the bed to be admitted, the hand cuffs were so tight circulation was being interfered with from his wrist to total hands. The cop took off one cuff and cuffed him to the side rail of the bed (perfectly normal with prisoners) I told the cop to loosen his handcuffs so circulation was not impaired...he growled at me..”I don't have to loosen anything””...I just looked him in the eye and said loosen them now or this will be reported in nurses notes that I requested to have them loosen to restore normal circulation and that you refused to do it....Cop was embarrassed and pissed but loosen the cuff to my satisfaction...When you know what your limits are always use them....he didn't want anything like that on the patience chart...Nurses notes are legal documents and if you make a mistake when charting...no white out is allowed. One line drawn through the mistake, dated, timed and initials....the cop knew that, or if he didn't he learned real quick not to have his name on any of my documation of the patients condition......GG

[don-o]

I cannot knock them too much at least it appears they had the right home this time.

LOL! And no reports of dog shooting

[Defiant]

From the comments:

Senator Nancy Shaefer and her husband Bruce were both shot dead and it did not make main stream news. This is persecution of a Christian family, nothing new as I myself was deemed quirky, eccentric, extreme, and offensive in a San Diego Family court due to my religion being Presbyterian and my husbands being Catholic so we were were refused custody of our granddaughter we had raised for seven years and put at the top of her class. Nancy Shaefer was fighting and exposing family court and CPS crimes and she mentioned religious hate crimes as one reason for taking children from families in family courts. There is war between the state and the church.

Things are getting bad everywhere.

[Secret Agent Man]

ANY EXCUSE FOR A TYRANT.

At any level.

SWAT must be disbanded. It won’t because it’s part of the plans from the State Dept pub 7277 Freedom From War document, increasing internal security forces and turning over armies to more global control groups. SWAT is the internal paramilitary forces alng with TSA, Americorps, DHS, BATFE etc.

[SeminoleCounty]

One thing we know for sure....this was over a MISDEMEANOR offense..that is a lot of force for a non felony. Very troubling

And...wow...we have some real pro-government goofballs posting on this thread. We know now who will be marching happily to the re-education camps

[Safetgiver]

I call BS... and a way to sue.

[Lazamataz]

His son violated him by pretending to be a cop.

Absolutely true!

There was a second, arguably worse violation. That is when the LEO's dressed up in Ninja Gear and decided to 'assault' the 'compound'.

They might have simply surrounded the place and served a warrant, you know. Just sayin'.

[Dubh_Ghlase]

My daughter lives close by and is heavily involved in a large church in that area. I have emailed her a link to the article, requesting any information she or the pastoral staff of her church may know about it. Will try to report back if there is anything not being stated that should be...

If this is true, along with the video taken of the police going door-to-door in Boston terrorizing civilians in their search for the bombers, I can honestly say I am deeply disturbed...

'nuff said...

[Elsiejay]

” . . .. And his son, who lives with him, was pretending to be a cop which is why the house was raided.”

Pretending to be a cop. Well that accounts for the slam-bang destruction, one supposes.
But not for me.

[CodeToad]

Was he pointing a gun at anyone during or immediately before the SWAT raid? No? Then the raid was unwarranted.

[AppyPappy]

If the police have a warrant and you refuse to let them in, guess what happens?
Talking to his mom on the telephone? Freeper, please.

[CodeToad]

Did the parents refuse entry?

[Future Snake Eater]

Is that all necessary in order to serve a warrant to arrest someone for impersonating an LEO???

Exactly what I was thinking. Even if he's guilty as sin, why go in heavy like that? Sadly, I think I already know the answer: because they can.