Posted on 05/04/2013 9:27:17 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen
On May 4, 1970, four Kent State University students were killed and nine injured when members of the Ohio National Guard opened fire during a demonstration protesting the Vietnam War.
In 2010, the site of the Kent State University shootings was placed on the National Register of Historic places by the Department of Interior with support of the Ohio Preservation Office. Carole Barbuto, a communication studies professor at Kent State University who was a junior there in 1970, spoke to Behold about some of the more than 4,000 images (many from student photographers) the university has in its archive related to the events around May 4. Since 2001, Barbuto has taught a course titled “May 4, 1970, and Its Aftermath” and she also led the photo selection process for the May 4 Visitors Center. “It’s a difficult story to tell,” Barbuto said. “It’s a very complex story. There are still many unanswered questions.” Barbuto spoke about her personal and historic knowledge about the famous images, sharing her insight and observations about the killings 43 years later:
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On what planet?
“On what planet?”
On planet Earth there were no more major demonstrations and mayham on college campuses.
Thanks, I wasn’t aware of all that, although I did wonder why the media didn’t seem to have any fear of that (Cairo) uprising, resulting in a rape. That explains it.
"there were no more major demonstrations and mayham on college campuses."
Kent State is in the conference of the college I obtained my undergrad from. Also my father fought in the urban riots in Detroit and I remember it vividly - see my post:
My father was a state police in Michigan during the '68 riots in Detroit.
There were "major demonstrations" across the nation for various reasons past the Nixon administration. Heck - there was "mayhem" on my college campus past the time of my graduation ('83).
God bless your father. That was a very tough job.
I did not intend to slam our south Carolina state troopers. Lots of find men. However, fitness was not stressed as it is today and most in the ranks were then overweight. Just an observation. They maintained restraint for several days before chasing students back into their safe Haven dorms and beating a few of them. Those students probably deserved it.
I still remember the crazy violent non students I had never seen on campus before and wonder where they came from. They had the same look as some of the OWS riffraft.
“Your assertion is absurd. I was there - were you?
Yes, as a matter of fact I was! ;-)
“there were no more major demonstrations and mayhem on college campuses.”
Kent State is in the conference of the college I obtained my undergrad from. Also my father fought in the urban riots in Detroit and I remember it vividly - see my post:
My father was a state police in Michigan during the ‘68 riots in Detroit.
There were “major demonstrations” across the nation for various reasons past the Nixon administration. Heck - there was “mayhem” on my college campus past the time of my graduation (’83).”
Hmmm, perhaps you did not read my post completely:
“There were “major demonstrations” across the nation for various reasons past the Nixon administration.”
True, but you are talking about riots in Detroit, etc. I said “COLLEGE CAMPUSES”!.....i.e., no more shootings/killings by police officers, etc! The college sit-ins ended with Kent State and Jackson State! ;-)
I thought Abbie Hoffman and his circle created this. They were looking for a perfect moment to incite trouble with the hopes to cause the deaths of a few students. In fact many of the hellraisers knew of this and was willing to a matyr for the cause
Bill Ayers defends Weather Underground bombings
Ayers said (yesterday): "I’m against violence.” ... "Property damage. That’s what we did."
Excerpt from article:
In his talk to the crowd, Ayers mentioned that in 1970, he lost three friends in the Weather Underground, including his lover, Diana Oughton. He did not explain in his talk how they died – they were killed when nail bombs they were making in a Greenwich Village townhouse blew up.
That there had been *professional agitation* for the days prior days, was not in the news.
The liberal media were then obsessed with jamming a camera into any face, meeting, or movement, that would support its attacks against the USA. (I certainly did not yet understand the extent to which, the liberal media would position and stage actors for the news; I was still too naive about the extent of communist agitprop. Later, during Watergate, when the liberal media show-trialed and attempted to impeach President Nixon on TV, then their act was exposed.)
Americans watching the TV in May 1970, if they had a TV with a remote (back then, many remotes used sound waves, not infrared nor radio waves), were flipping channels because IT WAS OBVIOUS that the “campus unrest” aka “the unrest” was being managed and produced by the left and liberal media.
You could *at best,* find only *some* actual students on campus - any campus - who were part of a protest ... all the rest were “student immigrants” bused in or somehow made their way to these events, whipped up by the leftists’ field expedient riot command structure: It consisted of a few representatives from the “coordinated ‘non-violent committees.’
So the first 3 days of the “unrest” in Kent, Ohio, was mostly greeted with a, “we’ve seen this before; will somebody please change the channel?”
The 4th day was a major change, for the families of the students.
Many families did not learn *anything* as they waited into the night and following early morning of the 5th, for their daughters and sons to return home.
We DID NOT know who was alive or dead, until these students checked in, overnight.
In some cases, the kids either managed to make a call from the campus, to let the parents know that the kids were headed home; in some cases, kids called home from a roadside gas/park.
Friends of mine, where I went over to visit and wait ... waited until near midnight, when some students returned home to southwest Ohio.
One friend of mine (their son) had observed most of the activity re the National Guard and “students” from his dorm room on May 4th. He recalled step by step what he had seen, which you have probably read, but just before the firing by the Guard began, some noise “instinctively” caused him and his friends in that dorm room, to duck below the window frame ... so they only *heard* thereafter, the Guard firing.
He and the others in the room, *all* promptly scrambled to grab some personal items and leave town immediately. He had actually managed to call home from a phone in the dorm, just before they hit the road.
We did not yet, though we knew something about, how in-depth the communist activites were. The national network of campus community organizers, we mostly DID NOT *get* in the news and especially from students. BECAUSE for *many students* and many families, we were not in opposition to fighting against the communists.
“Unrest” was *on only some campuses* and staged for the news media.
The liberal media have been working ever since, to make those instances seem to be “the case, overall,” but it was not.
Big time! Probably from Chit-cago.
There were leftist / Maoists / Social Justice / Anarchists who were organized and compelled to agitate across cities and campuses where ever the opportunity existed. Alinskyites, Chicago Seven, Black Panthers, ACORN / Weather Underground survivors - they used the same predictable tactics to whip up the ignorant underbrush in order to create a crisis (gee, where have heard this before).
At the stupid little Michigan college I attended, the faculty / administration brought in (drum roll....) Abby Hoffman and Timothy Leary to speak to the useful idiot students. What a bunch of feces they spewed - and I was an atheist at the time (freedom loving though and wise enough to know those idiots were loons)! After these buffoons spewed their revolutionary pablum - low and behold - parties on and off campus grew larger and rowdier - to the point where kids were flipping and torching cop cars. School authorities were shocked I tell you... shocked! They had to call in campus police, city police, the sheriff, tribal police, and state police to control the mayhem.
But Timothy Leary told us to throw off the shackles and dogma of our oppressive parents and expand our minds with all of the new experimental drugs! It was our parents who caused all of the social problems, not disregard for common sense!
Yep. Those are the roots of Barry S - our Maoist leader. Thankfully I left Michigan and found my way to Texas where I finally heard the Gospel! Miracle of miracles!
Well, I'm pretty sure after Kent State the National Guard didn't shoot students protesting. I'm sure sit-ins didn't stop. But I'm positive campus violence didn't end with Ken State.
See my post here: Here
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