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Los Angeles to pay $4.2 million to two women fired at in Dorner manhunt
Reuters ^ | April 23, 2013 | Alex Dobuzinskis

Posted on 04/23/2013 7:14:38 PM PDT by Alaska Wolf

LOS ANGELES | Tue Apr 23, 2013 9:38pm EDT

(Reuters) - The city of Los Angeles will pay $4.2 million to a mother and daughter who were caught in a hail of bullets in February when police mistook their truck for one driven by renegade ex-policeman Christopher Dorner and opened fire, officials said on Tuesday.

The settlement, which allows both sides to avoid a trial, brings the Los Angeles Police Department nearer to closing what had been an embarrassing chapter in its search for Dorner. The department still is reviewing the actions of two officers.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: dorner; lawsuit; manhunt; women
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To: A Navy Vet
THAT'S a big question I had. Did the cops not "notice" that the truck had newspapers being tossed out of it?

What EXACTLY did the ladies DO, to warrant having their truck shot at? Drive too slowly? Disobey an order to stop by police? Did they step on the gas as in trying to get away?

Did the cops have their headlights on? Their flashing lights?

I just don't buy the "it was too dark out to tell what color the truck was" excuse.

So they just opened fire?

It doesn't make any sense.

81 posted on 04/23/2013 11:13:56 PM PDT by boop ("You don't look so bad, here's another")
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To: South40

Yet another reason why I would never, ever go back to Los Angeles.

82 posted on 04/23/2013 11:28:51 PM PDT by Prole
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To: Alaska Wolf
How good are you at differentiating makes, models and colors of similar vehicles under poor lighting conditions?

You're right. They should have just shot everyone in every pickup truck.

83 posted on 04/24/2013 2:27:30 AM PDT by palmer (Obama = Carter + affirmative action)
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To: Alaska Wolf
"Are you claiming a victim has no recourse in civil court?"

Not at all.....but the Settlements should start FIRST AND FOREMOST with those found Guilty to be PERSONALLY LIABLE for ANY DAMAGES, even if it Bankrupts them or makes the rest of their lives one of payments for their Crime. Deep Pockets of Taxpayers have become the FIRSt RESORT for Litigation-Lotto payouts, and the Public is too stupid to realize that the Perps are not harmed, go back to their jobs, and it costs them NOTHING.

84 posted on 04/24/2013 3:57:23 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Alaska Wolf

That excuses why they couldn’t tell who was in the truck. Now, what excuses the fact that they opened up with their firearms while they were unable to tell who was in the truck.

If they could not identify the suspect, they should never have fired. That’s the bottom line - if they can’t identify they sure as hell can’t shoot.

LA got off cheap.


85 posted on 04/24/2013 5:55:10 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: palmer
They should have just shot everyone in every pickup truck

What a dumbass statement!

86 posted on 04/24/2013 5:56:38 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf

I’m referring to this specific incident and you know it. I’m not wrong.


87 posted on 04/24/2013 6:14:58 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: traditional1
the Settlements should start FIRST AND FOREMOST with those found Guilty to be PERSONALLY LIABLE for ANY DAMAGES,

Contact your representative and request that it be made the law.

88 posted on 04/24/2013 6:17:53 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Girlene
I’m referring to this specific incident and you know it

Did you not post this in #62? " There is no excuse for LE to open fire on ANY vehicle unless they are being fired upon."

89 posted on 04/24/2013 6:21:18 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: MortMan
That excuses why they couldn’t tell who was in the truck.

Excuses? All we know is that the cops opened fire on the truck. I don't know if the driver failed to stop when and if flashing lights and sirens were used or what occurred prior to the shooting. Do you have more information available to you?

90 posted on 04/24/2013 6:35:51 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: Alaska Wolf
"Contact your representative and request that it be made the law"

You're joking, right? Are you a Lawyer?

Negligence cases are intended to identify and penalize the wrong-doer (Intent of the Law), but have become, of course, a pursuit of the deepest pockets one can find to maximize Lawyers' income.

It doesn't matter what the Law intended; it only matters what former-Lawyer Judges Rule to enrich the Lawyer Brotherhood.

Stupidity and recklessness by Public Employees ALWAYS cost the Taxpayer, NOT the perp.

Lawyers know the money is in the Taxpayers' pockets, and that's where they aim.....Deal with it.

91 posted on 04/24/2013 6:39:39 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Alaska Wolf

From what I have read, there was no warning before the cops opened fire. Even if there was some form of warning to the ladies in the truck, there have been absolutely no suggestions that they did anything to warrant the application of deadly force.

Unless you believe that failure to yield right of way and/or failure to immediately stop for lights and siren are capital offenses. That doesn’t appear to be the law, nor does it make sense to me.

There was no “chase” reported. The two women were delivering papers (IIRC) and driving within the speed limits, apparently following the traffic laws. They did not run over or try to run over pedestrians.

Police are not supposed to open fire on people who do not pose a direct and immediate threat to them or to others. I am unaware of any allegation that these women posed a threat to anyone.


92 posted on 04/24/2013 6:55:34 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: Mastador1
They should make the trigger happy cops pay, not the innocent taxpayers.

Amen. This should be a plank on the GOP-replacement party's platform.

93 posted on 04/24/2013 6:57:05 AM PDT by Teacher317 (Sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast)
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To: Mastador1

I was looking for that comment,
and that’s my opinion as well.

When the agency, city, etc, has to pay, it doesn’t really “pay” anything. The taxpayers do. The people making the decisions that led to the problem experience no consequences.

Every gov’t agent needs to have to personally pay for malfeasance insurance with actuarially determined premiums based on their conduct. It should get too expensive for someone to work for the government if they abuse their power.


94 posted on 04/24/2013 6:59:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: traditional1
You're joking, right?

No. "The settlement, which allows both sides to avoid a trial"

Did you read the article?

"Los Angeles police spokesman Chris No said the settlement does not affect the department's investigation into the shooting by the two officers.

95 posted on 04/24/2013 7:04:20 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: MortMan
From what I have read, there was no warning before the cops opened fire

I've read that both women were shot and over 100 shots were fired, but both of those stories proved to be untrue.

Unless you believe that failure to yield right of way and/or failure to immediately stop for lights and siren are capital offenses.

It has nothing to do with what I believe. Failing to stop for law enforcement can get you wounded or killed, especially if they are searching for a person who is a ruthless cold-blooded killer.

96 posted on 04/24/2013 7:19:34 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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To: GeronL

nope...unless any of them are fired.


97 posted on 04/24/2013 7:25:03 AM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: Alaska Wolf
Failing to stop for law enforcement can get you wounded or killed, especially if they are searching for a person who is a ruthless cold-blooded killer.

Again, contemporary reports stated that there was no warning from the police. They simply opened fire.

Even if they were told to stop, the police are not legally allowed to shoot you to stop you. There has to be imminent threat of harm to themselves or others. Searching for someone else is no excuse for the attempted murder of innocent bystanders.

98 posted on 04/24/2013 7:27:01 AM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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To: Alaska Wolf

Yes; the “Settlement” just obligates Taxpayers to foot the bill, as always.


99 posted on 04/24/2013 7:31:12 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: MortMan
contemporary reports stated

As I posted earlier, many contemporary reports proved to be false.

police are not legally allowed to shoot you to stop you.

I believe you'll find that depends on the circumstances.

100 posted on 04/24/2013 7:42:08 AM PDT by Alaska Wolf (I)
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