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Lindsey Graham: ‘Enemy combatant’ (In Spades!!!)
Politico ^ | April 20, 2013 | KATIE GLUECK

Posted on 04/20/2013 12:55:08 PM PDT by yoe

Several Republican lawmakers are calling for the surviving suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings to be tried as an enemy combatant, rather than as an ordinary criminal.

“It is clear the events we have seen over the past few days in Boston were an attempt to kill American citizens and terrorize a major American city,” read a Saturday statement from Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), John McCain (R-Ariz.), Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.) and Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.). “The accused perpetrators of these acts were not common criminals attempting to profit from a criminal enterprise, but terrorists trying to injure, maim, and kill innocent Americans. The suspect, based upon his actions, clearly is a good candidate for enemy combatant status. We do not want this suspect to remain silent.”

Their statement came after Dzhokar Tsarnaev was taken into custody and sent to the hospital Friday night.

[snip] “America is part of the battleground,” he said. “If you capture someone on the battleground, they should not be given the privilege of a civilian trial where they are given different rights...

[snip] “We continue to face threats from radical Islamists in small cells and large groups throughout the world,” they said. “They have, as their primary focus, killing as many Americans as possible, preferably within the United States. We must never lose sight of this fact and act appropriately within our laws and values.”

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: District of Columbia; US: Massachusetts; US: New Hampshire; US: New York; US: South Carolina; War on Terror
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To: Figment

Sarcasm is sometimes a delicate thing.


261 posted on 04/20/2013 4:17:38 PM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Bigg Red

The way we’re going the Feds are going to have so much power it will end up totalitarian.

Remember Hitler was elected by the people, for the people etc... One day a bad man will have all that power we’ve been eager to give to the office of the presidency. I’d say Obama is bad but there can be even worse than him.

Conservatives need to be a lot more skeptical about ceding power and authority to the gang in DC.


262 posted on 04/20/2013 4:18:10 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan
JohnP....it is better to keep ones mouth shut and let others think you are a idiot,.... than to open it and remove all doubt,,,,,,,,, are you really saying there are no federal laws except what's annotated in the Constitution???....how about skyjacking????..see what I mean?????
263 posted on 04/20/2013 4:24:36 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Bitter... all of the wiretapping laws contravene the 4th Amendment but yes they’ve been ignoring the constitution far too long and as result we have a government that has run amok and is out of control.

Dont blame me for that!

I’m here trying to make the argument that we as conservatives should fight back and take those powers back.

I’m under no illusion that this will make me unpopular here. I’m new and so far haven’t had a hard time but because I’m strict about the Constitution which I believe to be an amazing document then it forces me to take unpopular positions.

I am so pleased to see many freepers agree me with and those who don’t seem to be open to what I’m saying... I wont win you all over but I don’t intend to give up defending freedom and liberty unless Jim tells me to sit it out!


264 posted on 04/20/2013 4:25:17 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan
"The states - under the 10th amendment - can do whatever they want."

They constituted the Federal government and have a lot of power. All those MA laws are constitutional.

Under your interpretation then the States can ban the 2nd Amendment And the First and so on.

But what the tenth actually sez is "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

So all those laws in MA concerning owning guns and restricting their use are unconstitutional as well. Like I said you know two things about this situation. "Jack" and "Shit"...

The states can't amend or transgress against the 2nd Amendment nor can the FedGov. But they both have done so. but your argument states the FedGov Can't and the States can.

Like I said Bottom Line: the Way the law stands now the Feds have jurisdiction and can charge him and so can the State and you haven't a clue about which you speak.

265 posted on 04/20/2013 4:25:50 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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To: Robe

Yes I’m really saying that... it’s a strict interpretation of the constitution that I believe the Founders intended.

Once you give an inch they take a mile and I dont want to give a inch to the Feds..


266 posted on 04/20/2013 4:27:07 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: Mad Dawgg

I agree with you: I’m against all State laws to restrict ANY part of the Bill of Rights. As for the 2nd i’m against background checks and everything else. These are God given rights which no one can take away or restrict although that doesn’t stop them trying.


267 posted on 04/20/2013 4:28:55 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: yoe

Graham is trying to polish up his credentials as a so-called conservative. Don’t believe him. There’s a campaign against Graham going on in SC. The people there have this snake on the ropes, with his approval rating falling from 71% to 54%.

Primary challengers are stepping forward to throw Linda out of the senate. Do not believe anything the liberal worm Graham says.


268 posted on 04/20/2013 4:29:23 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: InterceptPoint

“I’m with you Lindsey.”

Please don’t do that. We have this traitorous worm on the ropes in SC after a ton of work. Your support of Graham is ill-advised.


269 posted on 04/20/2013 4:34:11 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: DuncanWaring

Yea by the same government that interned 110 thousand Japaneses Americans.

FDR did a lot of unjust things and got away with them. We are still living with the legacy of many of them.


270 posted on 04/20/2013 4:36:13 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: Poison Pill
We are at war with Al Qaeda.

When did Congress declare that, again?
271 posted on 04/20/2013 4:39:50 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“”You know it’s ironic too because as former Texas prosecutor is currently being brought up on criminal charges for hiding & covering up evidence. Obama and Washington probably have no fear of such repercussions.”

Which case??”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/19/ex-texas-district-attorney-acted-improperly-when-prosecuting-innocent-man-judge/


272 posted on 04/20/2013 4:40:14 PM PDT by Monorprise
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To: yoe

All you people being sucked in by Graham’s statement via the neo-communist site Politico are friggin’ useful idiots.

Graham is a RINO traitor. He sleeps with McCain. You’re being played as fools.


273 posted on 04/20/2013 4:42:44 PM PDT by sergeantdave (No, I don't have links for everything I post)
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To: Monorprise

The trial will be a charade because it cannot examine and has no authority to act on the international and US security concerns. Having it even nullifies them. So why have a charade, unless that’s how you make your living.

The leeway accorded to enemy combatants would be to send him to Gitmo and get information out of him by whatever means necessary. Mincing lawyers are not going to provide the information about the threat this bomber and his contacts pose.

How do you get “he is clearly not a combatant”? From his recent and clearly false oath? Your geography reference makes no sense. He attacked in Massachusetts. The 9/11 terrorists attacked in New York and DC. So what? Terrorism has come to America. Are these criminal killings by Americans or attacks directed from forces outside the US?

Perhaps unfortunately we are beyond the days of uniforms and soldiers standing in neat little rows firing volleys at each other en-mass. We are fighting forces outside the US that are international in international Islam. It is many countries and no single country. They seem to want to kill us, so we have sent US soldiers to Iraq, Afghanastan and other places to fight them even though they don’t wear uniforms or have a single flag.

You can play “Law and Order” with this one if you want to. I am not interested. Trying to extend Constitutional Law into the battlefield is a fools excercise, even when that battlefield is on our own soil. Perhaps especially then, since it means that we are losing, and idiotic policies like this are probably behind it.


274 posted on 04/20/2013 4:46:56 PM PDT by Empire_of_Liberty
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To: Monorprise

Oh wow, I missed that story. Thanks for the link!

IMO, there is almost nothing worse than crooked prosecutors.

They are far to common too.


275 posted on 04/20/2013 4:48:27 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: yoe

They killed a Chinese national. Let’s ship his ass to China and let Chinese justice take care of him. The Chinese will be so much more “direct” than we would be.


276 posted on 04/20/2013 4:52:25 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: JohnPDuncan
Remember Hitler was elected by the people, for the people etc...

Hitler was never elected, he was appointed Chacellor by the Parliament!

Read you history John!!!!

277 posted on 04/20/2013 4:53:49 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: highball
When did Congress declare that, again?

And how do you declare war against an ideology who is not represented by a country?

278 posted on 04/20/2013 4:55:43 PM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: palmer
I thought this article would be about Lindsey Graham, enemy combatant.

SNORT!!!!

279 posted on 04/20/2013 4:56:56 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: sergeantdave

Lindsey.

Well of course. Broken clock. He happens to be right on this issue. I’ll rephrase:

I’m with you Lindsey, on this issue only.


280 posted on 04/20/2013 4:57:23 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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