Posted on 04/18/2013 10:12:18 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The FBI is (finally!) going to release the footage that everyone’s been clamoring for later today. If you’ve read the New York Post this morning, you probably think you know who the guys in the video will be. You’re probably wrong. I watched an interview on Erin Burnett’s show last night with Fran Townsend (I think it was her), who’d seen photos of the suspects circulated by cops; CNN refused to air the pics but it was abundantly clear from her description that it’s the same two guys in the Post’s story today. If you followed Reddit’s marathon photo sleuthing yesterday, you knew instantly watching that interview who she meant. There were at least five or six different shots of them near the finish line being scrutinized on Reddit — one of them wore a white cap and bulging black backpack, the other a blue track suit with a sagging duffel bag. I went to bed last night thinking that’s who’d be in the video released today.
But apparently I’m wrong. The administrator of the Reddit sleuthing thread posted an alert this morning urging people to back off. Quote:
This is what you call a witch hunt media, for god sake.
The two males we’re talking about are the one in a black jumper/hoody with a white hat, and his friend in a blue track jacket. There are multiple news sites releasing their information and/or Facebook pages, this is disgusting and will not be tolerated here, no links to these stories are allowed.
Please report any posts regarding personal information on these two, they will be removed and the user will be permanently banned. All previous links to these two are being removed.
We are not waiting for them to be officially cleared, one of the men has contacted the police to try and clear his name. Please understand that the FBI now knows who they are, so our posts now have no purpose. If the situation changes then people can make new posts. It’s not our job to keep their information out there, people are innocent until proven guilty – not the other way around.
I can’t find any news stories confirming that yet but, given the site’s prominence, the Reddit editor may have been contacted by someone who knows something begging them to halt the speculation. I noticed that Newsweek editor Michael Moynihan was also tweeting skeptically about the two guys in the photo this morning and e-mailed him to ask why he thinks they’re innocent. Answer: He found their Facebook pages last night and says it seemed pretty clear from the volume of material about track and field, along with lots of other innocuous crap, that they’re unlikely to be the culprits. They were probably just there watching the race because they’re into long-distance running. Obviously he can’t be sure, but reasonable doubt suggests maybe not putting them on the front page of a major tabloid until the feds speak up. In fact, a reporter from CBS has already claimed this morning that the two guys on the Post’s cover aren’t the guys the feds are looking for.
And yet, these obviously were the guys in the photos being shown to the media last night, per the CNN interview. So why were cops spreading them around if there aren’t even the main suspects? Maybe there was a miscommunication with the feds, or maybe it’s part of an effort to run down anyone who looked even a little “suspicious.” From yesterday’s NYT:
The videos also showed at least a handful of others whom the authorities want to question, either because of what they appear to be doing in the video or their proximity to the blasts, a senior law enforcement official said…
The official said the authorities were trying to boil down the number of people of interest in the videos and would then decide whether to ask the public’s help in locating them…
The official added: “There are several videos with people in them, and we’re looking to talk to more than one guy. It’s still very squishy but there are a lot of interesting people” the authorities want to talk to.
According to the LA Times, there are two men on the surveillance video who’ve piqued investigators’ curiosity (“The men were singled out because of their demeanor and the way in which they reacted to the bomb blasts”), but as I say, they’re probably not White Cap and Track Suit. Those latter two were likely noticed because of their bags, their proximity to the blast site, and, let’s face it, the fact that they appear Middle Eastern. If the Boston Globe is correct, though, then the bags don’t match either. They claim that the surveillance video shows each man carrying a black bag; the bag carried by Track Suit in the Post’s photo is blue.
Anyway, we’ll know soon. Expect a new thread ASAP after the footage is released; I’m eager to see if the real suspects ended up in any of the photos online. Exit question about something that’s been bothering me for two days: If the bomb really was in that bag in the fourth photo here, how did it not dislodge the mailbox next to it? It’s a foot away and had enough power to take people’s limbs off. I know mailboxes are sturdy, but that sturdy? The bomb must have been somewhere else nearby, no?
....the Odungo administration has released the red herring
Getting a lot of error messages today. “Remote server or file not found.”
Must be some loner white guy responsible.
I saw photos and footage and the point of this article is correct.
The guy I was most ‘interested’ in was wearing a coat that looked rather large or very well insulated. After the explosion, there appears to be a guy walking off quickly, wearing some kind of protective ‘jacket’ (was this under the large ‘coat’ ?) but his pants are blown off.
The second most interesting guy is the caucasian appearing guy with a beard carrying the backpack by it’s straps.
You're not the only one...but a bunch of comments will soon follow that tell you you are...LOL.
“...The guys in the feds’ surveillance video probably aren’t who you think...”
Interesting headline....who did they think I thought they were?
I get stuck halfway between 'connecting' and the website, and it doesn't seem to be limited to any one particular website.
Probably due to intense traffic on the internet, and maybe certain sites.
were they officially cleared and did they produce their backpacks to the cops? also what kind of bag was dropped by the mailbox across from the lord and taylor store?
I can tell that the author of this article looked at certain pictures and made some erroneous assumptions.
For instance, the ‘bag’ by the mailbox was not black. It wasn’t the ‘bomb’. But it was ‘circled’ in red on 4CHAN, so I guess the easily fooled got fooled.
What if there weren't any? That bomb might have sat there all day. The package might have been dropped off the night before. Why would the bomber stand around? Why not drop it and leave?
What if there weren't any? That bomb might have sat there all day. The package might have been dropped off the night before. Why would the bomber stand around? Why not drop it and leave?
When it's a cool day in April at a major event in Boston and you're looking for young men wearing jackets and carrying backpacks or other bags, it's amazing how many "persons of interest" you find in those photos.
I’m having trouble posting just one message...
The lonely crowdsource
Reddit’s search for the Boston marathon bombers wants to be as secret as the FBI’s http://news.yahoo.com/findbostonbombers-subreddit-hypocrisy—145122346.html
That last question in the main article is an interesting one. After seeing some of those photos I’ve speculated that the bomb at that location may have actually been underneath the grating for the “tree well” — and may have even been partially buried.
Also there’s a picture of ‘white hat’ and ‘blue suit’ walking away from bomb point #1 towards bomb point #2 and he does not have the back pack on! What kind of a ‘spectator’ puts his backpack down and walks away in that kind of a crowd?
It was the Arabian moslems. The Saudi in the hospital is connected to terror. He has 5 or 6 family members in Gitmo. The royal family rushing to the hospital where the guy was held, the Boston mayor being told by the feds there was an arrest then having it vanish,, and the royals getting him out of the country asap. Other royals meeting with Obama,, tells you all you need to know.
Obama bowed again.
something isn’t adding up....didn’t both explosions happen in back of the fans? The videos clearly show that the brunt of the force is from behind. The barriers were pushed back by responders to get to the people down
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