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We Win. They Lose. The 2nd Amendment is Safe.
Red State ^ | 4/17/2013 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 04/18/2013 7:20:41 AM PDT by IbJensen

Today in the Senate, a funny thing happened.

We fought on principle, and we won on principle. You know why?

Because 3 U.S. Senators didn’t listen to the “do something” caucus and the hand-wringers parading as leaders in Washington. Instead, Senators Cruz, Lee and Paul circulated a warning prior to the last recess saying they would (gasp) filibuster any legislation that would undermine our God-given, fundamental right to bear arms. It just so happens that this God-given right is enshrined in the Constitution.

We have a play book, ladies and gentleman: fight and win.

Thankfully these fresh faces in the Senate get it.

You know who else gets it? The Gun Owners of America. From the beginning, GOA was standing up tall to defend the Second Amendment on principle – not in a game of political gamesmanship and endorsements of Democrats. They were crystal clear the whole time and led other groups, some of whom get more attention and prominence in the debate, in their direction.

Heritage Action for America also gets a lot of credit for moral clarity and fearlessness at the very beginning of the debate. Their willingness to stand with Senators Cruz, Lee, and Paul at the very beginning helped tremendously.

Today, in Britain, Lady Thatcher’s devotion to public service and dedication to liberty was celebrated… not that anyone in the Obama administration noticed. The Prime Minister was tenacious and knew how to fight. She would often say “First you win the argument, then you win the vote.” Not particularly difficult to say – but sure seems difficult for most politicians to carry out.

But kudos to Senators Cruz, Lee and Paul for being willing to provide leadership where there has been none.

Now – on to Immigration.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: banglist; buyabidenshotgun; evilobamaregime; guncontrol; liars; obamabitesthedust; secondamendment
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To: IbJensen

Barry did everything except roll on the floor and kick his feet. What a tool.


21 posted on 04/18/2013 7:52:00 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: IbJensen

But don’t we still have to deal with the bare bill?


22 posted on 04/18/2013 7:52:36 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Now we need this Imigration Amnesty Bill killed!


23 posted on 04/18/2013 7:57:24 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Now we need this Imigration Amnesty Bill killed!


24 posted on 04/18/2013 7:57:32 AM PDT by Conserev1 ("Still Clinging to my Bible and my Weapon")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Now I’m confused - what’s the bare bill?

I’ve seen this characterized as a defeat of a bill, but was it just an amendment?

The press never fails to explain the processes well.


25 posted on 04/18/2013 7:58:56 AM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: IbJensen

There are two more gun votes and they start in two minutes, at 11 am central time, 12 eastern time.

We have to win these two votes.


26 posted on 04/18/2013 8:00:18 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: IbJensen

I looked at the clock wrong. The vote is in one hour.


27 posted on 04/18/2013 8:01:53 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: MrB
Agreed. It's a win of only a battle but the left never gives up, even after they get what they want. They will go for more and more and more.

28 posted on 04/18/2013 8:03:02 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: IbJensen
The shameful day was the day he was sworn in as president for a second term!

Every day he's president is shameful. The best thing he's ever said about Democracy is it's messy.

29 posted on 04/18/2013 8:04:23 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: IbJensen

This was just one of a thousand rounds in the bout. No liberty is EVER safe for our “imagined tyranny”.


30 posted on 04/18/2013 8:04:30 AM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: Marcella

At least two votes. Those are two amendments. Then there is the bill, and maybe a cloture vote preceding the bill, and there is no limit on the number of amendments, just on how many can be co-pending.


31 posted on 04/18/2013 8:07:18 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: IbJensen

The medium is the message.

Obama is the medium and the message is “anger”

Remember we are dealing with the low information voter.
The low information voter is defined by the members of the MSM.

Brainless, make-up wearing, teleprompter reading, dolls.

Mika Brezinski is only on MSNBC to wear a sweater that is tight.
Scarboro is just missing his fool costume and hat as the useful idiot “republican”.
CNN are all clones wearing che guevara t-shirts.
FNC has poftas, posers, and prettygirls.
FBC has circus clown imus (howard stern has more substance)

the good reporters are the exception.

however the medium is still Obama. All obama all the time.


32 posted on 04/18/2013 8:15:28 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Cboldt

we still have the UN international gun control treaty that the senate will vote on. Is has to be affirmativly voted down.


33 posted on 04/18/2013 8:16:21 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: IbJensen

They’ll be back!The Left NEVER GIVES UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


34 posted on 04/18/2013 8:17:15 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: IbJensen

For the moment


35 posted on 04/18/2013 8:17:33 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: IbJensen
They cropped Barney Frank out of this photo:

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36 posted on 04/18/2013 8:21:10 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (People are idiots.)
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To: Cboldt

Yes, two votes. I heard Reid yesterday say two votes today. He didn’t mention any other gun votes but these two votes are amendments so maybe there is another vote after these two amendment votes.


37 posted on 04/18/2013 8:24:37 AM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
imagined tyranny

I saw that comment... Never mind imagined tyranny, we got the real thing right now, right here in River City.

38 posted on 04/18/2013 8:24:52 AM PDT by wbill
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To: IbJensen

There is no bi-partisanship with this anti-Second Amendment mob, and Erickson is a fool if he thinks this war is over.


39 posted on 04/18/2013 8:27:10 AM PDT by izzatzo (NO MORE BUSHES!)
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To: Marcella
-- ... so maybe there is another vote after these two amendment votes. --

I don't think there will be, today, or even later this week. I just wanted to make the point that even these two votes don't dispose of the underlying bill.

40 posted on 04/18/2013 8:41:25 AM PDT by Cboldt
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