1) Where, in the Constitution, is the Congress authorized to require a background check prior to purchasing a firearm?
2) Where, in the Constitution, is the Congress authorized to keep records of who has purchased what firearms and when the purchases occurred?
3) Leftists keeping records of firearm purchases inevitable leads to leftists attempting to steal those firearms.
4) What part of "shall not be infringed" is difficult to understand?
So, you aren’t arguing that pointless legislation is something we should just allow.
Therefore, it’s the matter of danger that you’re failing to see.
Checks require submitting names.
Submitted names can be compiled into a list.
The US Government wants a list of every gun owner in the nation.
Why?
Because it opens the door to gun registration is why...
“but I am not clear on what makes these background checks dangerous.”
Suppose you once had a prescription for an antidepressant, mood elevator, or something like ambien. With Obamacare, the records are all shared. Since you may be dangerous (why else take those drugs?) you could be denied RKBA.
Let’s say we allow this to pass and find that five yeears from now it’s commonsense and reasonable to deny RKBA to repeat traffic offenders or those who missed a loan payment. No law gets looser with age.
In NY there is a dad who lost his license and guns “until his son turns 18 and moves out” because the kid said something threatening. So with a really good background check system, you could be denied RKBA for some condition or status someone in your house (or neighborhood) has.
Besides, what gives government the right to do this? The Constitution is a document whose major purpose is to restrict what governments can do, and it’s time to recover some of the ground lost.
The proposed background checks is nothing more than another step towards national control of every firearm in the United States. the socialist will sweeten the pot until they get enough RINO’s to support the proposed legislation and once it is adopted, then the real laws will be written to further restrict the use, possession and sale of firearms in the Country!
Keep in mind, there is nothing [dangerous] about a background check, it is what the government intends to do with the information they are collecting from these background checks that will ultimately be the danger to firearm ownership by law abiding Americans! Confiscation by attrition.
This puts the government smack in the middle of one of your God-given, self evident, inalienable rights. It’s as bad as them deciding if you qualify to go to a particular church.
What liberal program hasn’t metastatized into a monstrous cancer on liberty?
If the ostensible purpose is to “prevent another Sandy Hook or mass shooting”, then background checks, even as currently used, won’t do that.
Take a look at the current low numbers of prosecutions under the existing NICS system.
Nothing could be easier to prosecute than a felon attempting to purchase a firearm. You’ve got at least one witness, it’s on film, the perp filled out the paperwork - it’s an orgy of evidence.
That so few ever get prosecuted tells the entire story.
Criminals will get guns - they’re criminals.
Others have already answered with the backdoor registration problem. Another is that just loaning a gun to a friend could become an actionable offense. I heard a sheriff speaking on Fox. He gave the example of people who had to evacuate due to fires in their area. If they’d left their guns with a friend for safe-keeping, they & the friends would be criminals under these rules.
Another law, another criminal. Like Ayn Rand said, they WANT us to break a law. It makes controlling us that much easier.
Under the Framers' intent, and the founding generation's understanding of the US Constitution, was the assumption that the rights guaranteed under the first ten amendments, were inherent in the people, that is, given by God, and not dependent nor granted by any government of men.
In that wise, they stand in superior position to the US Constitution and every law, statute, regulation, and ordinance of government. It then logically follows that our government does not have the authority to make any law appertaining to our God-given rights.
Every firearms related law on the books at this time, is in violation of this fundamental reality. Allowing Congress to implement more laws that attach to our God-given rights is simply a surrender of even more of our natural liberties.
It's fundamentally wrong, and can only lead to yet more laws and loss of our freedoms.
It’s none of there damned business. We have a God-given, constitutionally guaranteed right to be armed. No permits, no checking, no government lists required (or permitted)!!
They want my gun, they’ll have to come and take it!!
>>I’m as distrustful of government as anyone, but I am not clear on what makes these background checks dangerous.
The background check is not dangerous. What is dangerous is the implementation. When a gun arrives at a dealer, it is logged in with a firearms record book, which is a legal document that must be maintained. They can see when it arrived and when it left the dealer’s hands.
Now, how do they keep track of YOUR gun to make sure that left your possession only after a proper background check?
Universal background checks requires universal registration. Registration leads to confiscation.
Also, how will you do a background check? Will you be able to call the same number as the FFL dealer and pay a small fee? Or will they require you and the buyer to go to a dealer so they can “process” your sale. The dealers around here charge about $150 to process a sale where they don’t make any money.
This is another “let’s pass it to see what’s in it” bill.
You just answered your own question. We don’t have to defend why background checks cause us harm. They have to defend how background checks would have prevented Newtown. All of this is in response to Newtown. What is their plan to “solve” it so it doesn’t happen again? I’m waiting. They have no plan. Its not even possible.
I want to see these liberals get down on their hands and knees and confess they are using this tragedy to implement their agenda. I want them to apologize and beg for forgiveness
You just answered your own question. We don’t have to defend why background checks cause us harm. They have to defend how background checks would have prevented Newtown. All of this is in response to Newtown. What is their plan to “solve” it so it doesn’t happen again? I’m waiting. They have no plan. Its not even possible.
I want to see these liberals get down on their hands and knees and confess they are using this tragedy to implement their agenda. I want them to apologize and beg for forgiveness
A God-given right not protected is a God-given right conceeded.
Ask your local newspaper reporter if s/he would be willing to submit to a government devised annual journalism test and credential registration.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3006374/posts
Police found a person who’d licensed and registered their guns, who according to an MD report was taking antidepressants.
It will be nothing more than a national gun registry, a handy tool when the SHTF for confiscation..