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Posted on 04/10/2013 10:36:37 AM PDT by xzins
The National Rifle Association will oppose the background check bill introduced by Sen. Joe Manchin (D., W.Va.) and Sen. Pat Toomey (R., Pa.) Wednesday, the pro-Second Amendment group told the Free Beacon.
Manchin and Toomey held a press conference Wednesday morning announcing a bipartisan bill that would expand background checks for all commercial firearm sales, including gun shows and Internet sales.
The bill is the latest effort by the Senate to introduce background check legislation, after negotiations between Sen. Tom Coburn (R., Okla.) and Democrats broke down earlier this year.
Manchin’s office told BuzzFeed Wednesday that the senators had been talking with the NRA, but the Second Amendment group had thus far remained “neutral.”
“The NRA has not said either way,” Katie Longo, Manchin’s press secretary, told BuzzFeed. “The senators have been talking to the NRA, but they’re still neutral.”
A spokesman for the NRA said the report was “wrong.”
The NRA reiterated its opposition to expanded background checks in a statement to the Washington Free Beacon.
“Expanding background checks at gun shows will not prevent the next shooting, will not solve violent crime and will not keep our kids safe in schools,” the NRA said. “While the overwhelming rejection of President Obama and Mayor Bloomberg’s ‘universal’ background check agenda is a positive development, we have a broken mental health system that is not going to be fixed with more background checks at gun shows.
“The sad truth is that no background check would have prevented the tragedy in Newtown, Aurora or Tucson,” the NRA’s statement continued. “We need a serious and meaningful solution that addresses crime in cities like Chicago, addresses mental health deficiencies, while at the same time protecting the rights of those of us who are not a danger to anyone. President Obama should be as committed to dealing with the gang problem that is tormenting honest people in his hometown as he is to blaming law-abiding gun owners for the acts of psychopathic murderers.”
And it is wrong. If you can’t release a person back into society being reasonably sure that he will not commit another crime, then you haven’t kept him locked up long enough.At one time, I believe, in some states, when a man was released, his saddle and gun(s) were given back to him.Debt is paid.
Today it’s gun rights => now that they have your medical records everything else will cascade.
Tomorrow it’s your parental rights, 1st Amendment rights (Internet ID), 4th Amendment Right.
Exactly! Pat Toomey also had dinner at a posh restaurant with Dear Leader while Rand and Cruz were filibustering.
Seems like a Traitor, Toomey.
A God-given right not protected is a God-given right conceeded.
Ask your local newspaper reporter if s/he would be willing to submit to a government devised annual journalism test and credential registration.
I still remember the bumper stickers that said “Defend Firearms. Support Specter” that the NRA distributed here in PA.
Toomey is home free until 2016. He hopes to rebuild cred on other issues to divert from this in the meantime.
Toomey will speak at something called the Pennsylvania Leadership Conference, a conservative CPAC type thing in the Harrisburg area on the weekend of April 19-20.
That event would probably be a good place for a large picket line.
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3006374/posts
Police found a person who’d licensed and registered their guns, who according to an MD report was taking antidepressants.
“The NRA is about action.”
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By “action,” you mean endorsing Harry Reid for re-election in exchange for taxpayers being looted to pay for a gun range?
By “action,” you mean useless branding by sponsoring a NASCAR race?
By “action,” you mean using donations to build a direct marketing operation that simply solicits more donations (like the RNC)?
Or is there some other “action” that they do that’s worth more than a warm bucket of spit?
And Toomey also supported getting rid of DADT.
And Toomey also supported the Obama tax increases. His ACU rating must be dropping like a rock.
There are a number of ways that rules could be written to require background checks to be performed on firearm sales without allowing any new sale-related information to flow to the government, but that wouldn't solve a more important danger with background checks: they make it much easier for the government to arbitrarily deny individuals' rights to keep and bear arms without any sort of due process. I think the latter point is probably a more effective argument, given that gun grabbers don't say they want registration lists to facilitate confiscation, but they have openly expressed their desire to disarm people who are not even suspected (much less convicted!) of any crime nor been ruled mentally incompetent by due process of law.
>>There are a number of ways that rules could be written to require background checks to be performed on firearm sales without allowing any new sale-related information to flow to the government
But how would the government be able to know that a background check was done if it doesn’t know where the guns are in the first place? The gummint loves its metrics!
>> but that wouldn’t solve a more important danger with background checks: they make it much easier for the government to arbitrarily deny individuals’ rights to keep and bear arms without any sort of due process.
They could do that now since all dealer sales require a background check. To say that expanded checks would catch the people who can’t pass a background check now and have to go to private sales actually supports the anti-gun crowd’s assertion that unchecked private sales supply guns to people who shouldn’t own them.
do you have a list of states and the various categories. I’m in PA and a relative by marriage is a felon now a minister. interesting to know if he could purchase legally ( lawfully)
i lived in bloomsburg in 1978-80 and went to and had booths at the fair. Del Ziesloft(sp) killed an 600-800? lb bear that year. during the minor flood my trailer was parked on the bridge to fishtown. nice memories. move the trailer up om the mountain after that.
It will be nothing more than a national gun registry, a handy tool when the SHTF for confiscation..
Joe is a country boy who is basically conservative because he was raised that way. Problem with Joe in D.C. is he is naive. It’s not hard for the slick democRATs to bamboozle him. He understood politics WV style and he could honestly say he was pro-life, pro-second, anti-tax, conservative and get elected as a D. WV democrats are usually not your liberal types. The party got a foothold 100 years ago, along with the unions and they have intrenched in Charleston to the exclusion of the rest of WV. They control the money and the unions control them. It’s been a relationship that has produced the same kind of followers that the national party has: welfare takers and union thugs. The good people are on their own trying to work hard, be honest and love God.
http://felonvoting.procon.org/view.resource.php?resourceID=286
http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2012/08/how-to-restore-gun-rights-after-a-felony.html
This should help you find search terms for your state.
Thank you for the insight. Here in Texas, we used to have a lot of Democrats like that also, just without the union influence. But in the past 20 years or so, most have them have become Republicans.
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