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Ethicist’s Stunning Challenge: Why Wait Until a Patient Is Dead to Harvest Organs?
The Blaze ^ | 4/9/13 | Liz Klimas

Posted on 04/09/2013 8:51:14 AM PDT by Nachum

We’ve seen ethicists discussing the controversial topic of time of death and organ donation before. Now, another ethicist is discussing the “moral insignificance of death” when it comes to organ donation in the latest issue of Cambridge Quarterly of Healthcare Ethics.

As pointed out by BioEdge, Walter Glannon, a Canada Research Chair in Medical Bioethics and Ethical Theory and professor at the University of Calgary, is among the many ethicists that have begun questioning whether it’s necessary to wait until death before harvesting organs, especially in light of recent shortages.

Glannon’s abstract states (the full article is available for purchase) “it is not the timing or declaration of death that matters morally in this type of organ donation” — this type being one based on patient autonomy (or lack there of) and nonmaleficence.

“This position rejects the conviction that whether donors are harmed depends upon when death is declared and that procuring organs before this declaration always harms them,” Glannon wrote.

(Excerpt) Read more at theblaze.com ...


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KEYWORDS: deathpanels; ethicists; harvest; organdonor; organharvesting; organs; patient
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Good work Glannon- you and your loved ones first.
1 posted on 04/09/2013 8:51:14 AM PDT by Nachum
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Sure ... Let The Weak Be Strong and Let The Guilty Pay.


2 posted on 04/09/2013 8:52:54 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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Why is this “stunning?”


3 posted on 04/09/2013 8:53:20 AM PDT by mbarker12474 (If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
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He has convinced me to be a NON-donor. I will be changing my drivers license this week.

If there is a way to designate NO! on my license, I will - rather than trust a passive negative to the question.


4 posted on 04/09/2013 8:54:19 AM PDT by GilesB
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Great idea, they should start with the heart and then take their time with the others. If you’ve ever seen open heart surgery, it’s like using an 8 foot breaker bar to loosen a nut.
I’m sure the family will be OK with having the local salvage yard employees working on their still alive (but soon to be not alive, I’m sure there’s a word for that) relative.


5 posted on 04/09/2013 8:55:27 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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I’m a donor. I’m hoping my liver goes to a Democrat.


6 posted on 04/09/2013 8:55:33 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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Or, like China, not even wait for an illness or injury.

Why not just take political prisoners and use them for a warehouse for the elite to take and use when needed. It’s not like they are doing anything anyway? right?

/sarc


7 posted on 04/09/2013 8:55:35 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (As long as America's tolerence of failure is not overwhelmed by a desire to succeed, we will fail.)
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Why wait until a person is a patient?

Perhaps we should take the “ethicist’s” organs right now.


8 posted on 04/09/2013 8:57:27 AM PDT by chris37 (Heartless.)
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Who knows, Maybe vivisection is one of this guy’s closet hobbies. People like him pull wings off of flies and torture small animals, and you know what that leads too...


9 posted on 04/09/2013 9:00:48 AM PDT by The Working Man
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China does not have any problems. The keep prisoners well fed and healthy in prison then execute them to harvest organs.


10 posted on 04/09/2013 9:06:16 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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Sounds like the Monty Python skit on organ donors, “We’ve come for your liver.”


11 posted on 04/09/2013 9:07:52 AM PDT by paint_your_wagon
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This sounds like a backdoor route to executing those who are deemed “enemies of the state” to provide a source of organs for party members.

Oh wait....that’s China. I thought I was talking about the U.S. /sarc

People really need to take the blinders off & look at what the hell is going on.


12 posted on 04/09/2013 9:10:34 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Why am I both pro-life & pro-gun? Because both positions defend the innocent and protect the weak.)
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Why wait until a person is a patient?

There used to be these things called press gangs...

13 posted on 04/09/2013 9:14:44 AM PDT by MAexile (Bats left, votes right)
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but soon to be not alive, I’m sure there’s a word for that

I think it's "DOOMED".

14 posted on 04/09/2013 9:20:47 AM PDT by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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I've taken the devious route to assuring people that they want no part of my liver.
15 posted on 04/09/2013 9:23:08 AM PDT by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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why not have ambulance drivers look for healthy people on the street and drive into them, then take them to the hospital to harvest their organs?

this is what happens to a profession when they are godless. it always goes warped, twisted, wicked and evil, and cold. some people are cnveniently not people, just parts for other people. why wait until they’re dead, their parts are fresher now, and the people whose status we regard as “people” may not survive long enough for the “parts person” to die - they could even start recovering, and then where are we?

more and moreyou don’t want to go to the hospital. these people are getting warped and deranged in their “ethics”.


16 posted on 04/09/2013 9:26:29 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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“This position rejects the conviction that whether donors are harmed depends upon when death is declared and that procuring organs before this declaration always harms them,” Glannon wrote.

Actually makes perfect sense, once you accept the concept of "brain-death" while the rest of the body is chugging merrily along.

I don't, myself, understand why so many on the thread are just now coming to a realization of what the medical murder industry is all about.

17 posted on 04/09/2013 9:27:27 AM PDT by chesley (Vast deserts of political ignorance makes liberalism possible - James Lewis)
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FYI..Glannon is listed on the credits for NBC’s new show, “Hannibal”


18 posted on 04/09/2013 9:27:58 AM PDT by ken5050 (My tagline has mysteriously vanished...)
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Obviously part of his brain has already been “harvested”. Stupid liberals tring to turn movies into reality (Repo Men)


19 posted on 04/09/2013 9:28:49 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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The liberals are going to hate Sam Parnia, the MD whose methods can bring someone back from death after as much as 3 hours, without tissue or brain damage. http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2013/apr/06/sam-parnia-resurrection-lazarus-effect


20 posted on 04/09/2013 9:32:19 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Gun Control is the Key to totalitarianism and genocide.)
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