Would he do ANYTHING to protect our Republic?
Posted on 04/06/2013 9:06:45 PM PDT by Perseverando
Exclusive: Joseph Farah warns of 'Red Dawn' scenario becoming real-life catastrophe
Have you seen “Red Dawn”?
I don’t mean the old movie starring the late Patrick Swayze.
It was good. But I’m talking about the more recent version.
I hesitated watching it for a long time, mainly because I thought the producers of the movie sold out when they opted to substitute a North Korean invasion of the U.S. for what was originally planned as a more likely Chinese invasion.
Supposedly they did so because the Chinese movie market was too lucrative to pass up.
But, having seen it recently, and having followed the news of recent weeks, I think the producers made the right choice.
Watch trailer here:
The new “Red Dawn” is worth seeing as it comes to pay-per-view and video rental release.
It’s not a bad action movie.
But, more than that, the tactic that facilitates a joint North Korean and Russian invasion of the U.S. is the one I would use if I were trying to take down the U.S. quickly and efficiently and inexpensively.
I won’t ruin the movie for you by telling you the invaders use what is described in the script as a “new weapon.”
It’s actually not new at all. It’s relatively old technology called an “electro-magnetic pulse.” The power of an EMP attack was first recognized during the Cold War era. It’s a power that has the potential to defeat overnight America’s strength – technology.
And that’s exactly what happens in the new “Red Dawn.”
If I were the lunatic Kim Jong-un, it’s how I would use at least one of my nine nuclear weapons in taking down the U.S. – something he threatens to do on nearly a daily basis now.
As F. Michael Maloof explains so adeptly
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
I do agree with the author that we would be wise to spend a little money on hardening the grid. That would certainly be money well spent since solar flares do happen.
Like Iran? We may soon see if they truly intend to use them. My bet is the Mullah's are crazy and sufficiently hate filled to do such a thing.
Can you enlighten me on the proper Incense one should use to help deter the effects of an EMP. Also at this time I do not
utilize my Tin foil Hat 24hrs a day and should it be double lined? I appreciate your knowledge on such matters and your courage to advise others on such controversial matters.
Good. Believe me when it comes to radio questions you are one of the first people I think of, but when it comes to EMP weapons and nukes not so much, even if you did stay in a Holiday Inn last night. ;-)
The original was better.
It was better for many reasons, personally I liked that kids just kids were able to pull it together and make the enemy suffer.....kids who before only cared about football and dates.
ut oh, Now you done it.
A Christian, can quote the Constitution and this......Big Sis says you are a terrorist.
Glad to know you brother, me too!
Glad I have a lot of hand tools!
They’d only have to hit a few centers and primary grids, to cause havoc.
Tube operated (I think) CBs, Ham Radios would not be effected.
We have a place in the high desert of California, and the small community has encouraged everyone to get and learn how to operate a tube Ham Radio, and CBs.
(Of, course other emergancy items as well)
During the Cuban Missile Crisis we all learned to sing
“Duck, and cover, and kiss your ass goodbye”
“Has to do with field density and other parameters. It might under ideal conditions destroy the electrical system in a 500 mile area. Possibly.”
And how is it you come to this incorrect generalized conclusion?
” Very few electronics today would be effected by an emp.”
Incorrect. The truth is that we aren’t really sure. EMP damages electronics by inducing a voltage across a semiconductor junction - something that usually damages the semiconductor junction. Electronics have dimensionally smaller junctions - so by this measure are more susceptible, provide a voltage can be induced upon them.
It was an extremely rare event when they tested the first bombs.
No it wasn’t. it requires only the production of gamma rays. gamma rays happen every time a nuclear weapon is detonated. if a nuclear device is detonated in the upper atmosphere - above 30km you ARE going to induce an EMP. Actually, according to research, the strength of an EMP is remarkably independent of the yield of a particular device. “Any Nuke Will Do” is the unfortunate fact.
“No truth to it.” You are wrong. What we don’t know is how strong the EMP will be for any specific altitude/device scenario.
All that said - we don’t know how much damage an EMP will do, because we haven’t had an opportunity to find out with an actual device against modern electronics.
An EMP is more complex than I’ve explained but it is no a hoax.
Bernardin makes some key points. EMP doesn’t come from the bomb blast itself. It comes from gamma radiation interacting with the stratosphere at an altitude range of about 10-20 miles. If you set off a nuke near the ground, the gamma radiation goes upward and when it hits the stratosphere, electrons are ionized causing the EMP, part of which will come back down to affect things at ground level. The width of the “cone” of gamma rays that reaches the stratosphere is limited by the closeness of the source. The size of the area of the stratosphere that is impacted by gamma radiation will determine the size of the EMP effect.
A high altitude EMP (HEMP) uses a small to moderate sized bomb that detonates in the altitude range of 250-300 miles up. In that case, the gamma rays can spread out more before they hit the stratosphere below the burst and the area of stratosphere producing the EMP is much larger and can cover the entire North American continent with a single event.
He also points out that ionization eventually creates a dampening effect on EMP, limiting the build-up. Large thermonuclear (hydrogen) bombs use a small fission device to trigger the fusion process. That initial burst of gamma rays from the trigger bomb can saturate the ionization, leaving little more effect available for the large fusion explosion. This means EMP does not scale directly with the size of the bomb blast, unless some special technology is being used to create a super-EMP weapon.
500 kilotons seems to be an accepted limit on fission devices. Anything larger is usually a fusion weapon. But it has been suggested that a simple fission bomb in the range of 200-400 kilotons will be sufficient to cover the US from coast to coast if the bomb is detonated at the correct altitude of 250-300 miles.
Would he do ANYTHING to protect our Republic?
“In fact we know that it is real, we just don’t know the variables of the weapons, delivery, various electrical systems and at what level, distance, etc. and so on.”
Thank you. I would be interested in the chants you are using though.
“Field density is very hard to project and there is no reliable data to support the article.”
You do know that one reason we don’t have some data on atmospheric tests back in the day is that the EMP blew out the data collection equipment.
Once the EMP effect was understood, it was immediately classified.
“Electromagnetic Pulse is a impulse radio wave. It is created by a nuke (fission of fusion) but the impulse reaches past the blast area. Like all radio waves it decreases in field density as the wave moves form the source.”
Sit down son, and prepare to learn.
An EMP is caused by gamma rays impacting a layer of the atmosphere about 20km above the surface of the earth.
The nuclear explosion generates gamma rays that hit the layer of the atmosphere that is visible to the gamma rays. so in essence the “radio wave generating” portion of the EMP comes from a very very large area - effectively “Near Field” - and as you know, from your dad’s EE and his ham ticket, in the “near field” radio waves DO NOT decay in the manner of inverse square.
“The problem for power systems is the energy is easily coupled to power lines. But the field density decreases rapidly.”
Well yes and no. the problem for power systems is not just the RF energy coupling to the power lines, it’s also the later effects that deform the earths magnetic field - which has significant effects on operating transformers, for instance, that likely have been damaged by the initial radio pulse.
“So, I still maintain my original position.”
Your original position maintains it’s original incorrectness. You clearly do not know, but what is worse is that you do not know “with attitude”. Nobody should listen to anything you have to say on this topic.
“but the idea of frying all the cars for 500 miles with one nuke is nonsense.”
You are walking back your original foolish conclusion that no electronics would be damaged outside of 500miles.
walk it back the rest of the way now.
Does EMP effect tubes?
I was told that it does not which is why people are encouraged to have tube Ham Radios.
However, I do not know if that is just “knowledge” based on a scfi book from the early ‘60s, where the USSR ‘dropped/exploded’ EMP bombs over the US/world and their computers were unaffected as they were all tubes.
“Does EMP effect tubes?”
It does, but the tubes don’t care. It can arc and do little damage to a tube.
Tubes operate on the order of 100’s of volts. A (damaging) arc in a semiconductor junction can occur on the order of 10’s of volts
Thanks
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