Posted on 04/05/2013 7:10:05 AM PDT by raptor22
National Security: The administration moves an advanced missile defense system to Guam because it knows a single low-yield nuke detonated at high altitude could send America back in time a hundred years.
The announcement Wednesday by the Defense Department that it would soon deploy the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense System (THAAD), a missile defense system inherited from the Bush administration, to Guam underscores the seriousness of the threat from North Korea, whose actions, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel rightly said, "present a real and clear danger."
This move comes after the Obama administration reversed its previous scuttling of Bush administration plans to increase our ground-based interceptor force in Alaska and the deployment of two destroyers equipped with Aegis missile defense systems, the Decatur and the John McCain, to the region.
Some observers dismissed it as familiar bluster when North Korea's 28-year-old raging runt, Kim Jong-un, signed an order for North Korea's strategic rocket forces to be on standby to fire at U.S. targets in front of a map that included Austin, Texas, as a target.
But other observers are concerned that a specific target may not be what the possibly imploding North Korean regime may have in mind.
The three-stage missile North Korea launched last December that also orbited a "package," which experts say could be a test to orbit a nuclear weapon that then would be de-orbited on command anywhere over the U.S. and exploded at a high altitude, releasing an electromagnetic pulse (EMP). That would fry electronic circuitry and the nation's power grid.
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I work with teams of Chinese. They have no desire to invade. Hell, they are worried about being invaded.
The work horses would probably be slaughtered for food by starving hordes.
At the very least you and your friend (and a platoon of marines) would need to protect them at all costs from all comers.
They would need to be inside and guarded 24/7. And hopefully neither you nor your friend ever need to sleep.
So really, no one’s talking about the remake of “Red Dawn” now? I thought when that came out it was “preposterous” to think NK would attack us.
Rechargeable batteries will work....for a while. But they all die in the end.
One flaw in the food question is the amount of food you need. Going to some restaurant and getting a 2000+ calorie meal is misleading. People can get by on much less a day. We are conditioned to thinking we need X amount a day when in reality you could eat much less and still be healthy. Our forefathers did. There is a difference between hunger and starving, I venture most Americans (even most EBT’er) have ever been starving, as backed-up by how many fat arses we have in this country.
A loaf of bread, two tomatoes, a couple of potatoes, an onion and a small quantity of meat would last me a week.
Pioneers of this country got by on a small biscuit in the morning a couple pieces of jerky mid-day, and a rabbit or squirrel size meal in the evening with an occasional piece of fruit.
Samsung has a very large production plant there. Samsung is South Korea’s shining tech giant.
If we went under that hard and fast, the rest of the world’s economy comes to a halt within two business days. The “global scale” catastrophe you are thinking of would happen. The banking systems that hold US treaduries or currencies for their stuff that we buy, foreign investors, they would be wiped out in seconds after an EMP hit. Once the rest of the world’s banking system convulses and dies, liquidity is gone, for a generation at a minimum.
The subsistence farmer in Mozambique probably would not notice, but any nation with a semi developed economy would be too involved in taking care of their own to mess with whatever we are doing. And the ruling classes / welathy in Mozambique would be in deep poo-poo along with Europe, Japan, and most any other place that has pots to whizz in.
You’re on the grid now /johnny :)
And who is Samsung's biggest competitor......Apple.....*cue jarring chord*
An Electro-Magnetic Pulse would be devastating to the area affected by it.
Every electronic device that contains any kind of chip, from computers to cell phones to cell phone towers to the power transformer on the pole outside your house to your HVAC system to your vehicle electronics would be instantly rendered completely useless.
Imagine yourself in this position. No water (the utility can't pump because there's no electricity). If you have a well, here's still no water because your pump won't run because there's no electricity. And, the pump got fried by the EMP. Once you are out of food, you're out of food, period. Can't get to the store, your vehicle does not run because it's electronics got fried. Even if it did, there'd be no deliveries at the store because the delivery trucks don't run either. No electric heat because of no electricity. No gas heat because there's no way the gas company can pump gas to you because there's no electricity. And if you use propane, no heat either because the gas furnace won't run because here's no electricity. And if there was electricity the furnace wouldn't run because all of it electronics have been fried. And so on and so on. At the end of a week, if you weren't dead, you'd probably wish you were.
Do yourself a favor; buy and read the book, "One Second After." The author does an outstanding job of describing the aftermath of an EMP. Spoiler alert: The first outside help arrives after one year. In the meantime, 90% of the town residents have died, most through starvation, many through suicide.
... many of us replace our high tech stuff every year anyway.
True now. But not true after an EMP. No way to get to the store and all the electronics in the store were destroyed by the EMP.
You really need to research the EMP and it's aftermath.
Oh, agreed with the excess food.
And for those that manage not to starve completely to death the benefit will be cured t2d, and a lot of the medical issues associated with obesity.
However, diseases of malnutrition we’ve not seen for a hundred years will return. Notably those relating to lack of complete proteins and B vitamins. Along with good old scurvy.
I agree. We might actually see people start to “read” again.
A small generator and wood gasifier to run it is great for an individual in the right location, but doesn't help the rest of the country in any shape form or fashion only the person that has it.
Bread keeps a week or more, raise fresh veggies, learn how to make jerky. Who needs refrigeration? Humans lived up until the 20th century without it.
It’s not “confidence.” I’m a redneck. I’m a Neanderthal! I swap transmissions, pull water well pumps 200 ft. on 1-inch lines by hand to replace ‘em—stuff like that. For well systems, I like cisterns instead of expansion tanks and gravity feed wherever possible. Why? Because that stuff is heavy and big! [Familyop flexes droopy, old muscles, aging pectorals flop up and down nearly audibly.]
I like real utilities from the past—big, heavy, clunky, weird things that work. For example, closed loop, high pressure, high heat, state-of-the-art solar-radiant heating systems with big boilers full of antifreeze! Nooooooo. Old-timey, low pressure, low heat drainback system for me, with tons of tons of concrete, insulation and the like (pronounced “lack”). No antifreeze here.
City slickers, important utility plants have auxiliary power, fuel storage and preferences for fuel...and mucho security—layers of it.
The following is not my video, but shows a fine example of the leadership that we really need.
BurnOut Till it POPS “42 Chops garage” with Rooster Mcgee quik draw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2cDW8BRNVc
I know when I did the mountain man thing for over a year, I consumed about 3 times the calories I do normally, especially in the winter.
Hauling water, chopping wood, and generally working from before dawn until after dark requires a LOT of calories.
My historical research into shopping lists and military ration allowances from the late 1800s confirms that.
/johnny
Not if our leader grow some and launch our emp’s to level the field for a few years. I believe even if Zero didn’t the following coup leaders or a patriot general would.
Wish I was close enough to power lines for low-cost grid power, but I’ll just have to get other things done slower.
/johnny
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