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WOW! Has this got the liberals and progressives panties in a twist.

Don't miss reading the article or the accompanying comments.

Everyone knows what the U.S.Constitution states about the establishment of religion. This flies right in the face of that, and liberals are, ahem, upset.

I suspect it is being done to purposely goad the BHO2 administration, which has flagrantly violated the Constitution.

1 posted on 04/04/2013 12:32:35 PM PDT by SatinDoll
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Agree, my thoughts also.

May as well start the real wars with the liberals, because - like Muslims - they’ll concede to nothing but unstoppable force.


2 posted on 04/04/2013 12:35:52 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: SatinDoll

Agree, my thoughts also.

May as well start the real wars with the liberals, because - like Muslims - they’ll concede to nothing but unstoppable force.


3 posted on 04/04/2013 12:36:26 PM PDT by Da Coyote
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Doesn’t the law against the establishment of religion only apply to the nation as a whole? Has it been decided that it applies to state governments? This will be interesting.


4 posted on 04/04/2013 12:36:28 PM PDT by Viennacon
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Just give BHO an in, and he’ll establish shariah...


5 posted on 04/04/2013 12:36:36 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Vendetta))
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The US Constitution says that CONGRESS cannot establish a state religion. It is silent on the individual states’ choice in that regard. Well, other than the “all other rights are reserved to the states or the people”...


6 posted on 04/04/2013 12:36:45 PM PDT by Don W (There is no gun problem, there is a lack of humanity problem!)
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Everyone knows what the U.S.Constitution states about the establishment of religion...

By the federal government. The whole intent was to allow the sovereign states the ability to make their own state religions without it being dictated from the federal government.

However, the 14th Amendment is generally construed to mean that anything specifically prohibited to the federal government is also prohibited to government at all levels. (Of course, they always try to avoid applying anything to a true 2nd Amendment test.)

7 posted on 04/04/2013 12:39:04 PM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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This is not a federal Constitutional issue. The right to establish a state religion is left specifically up to the state. There is nothing in the federal Constitution that precludes states from establishing a state church.


8 posted on 04/04/2013 12:39:55 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (Better the devil we can destroy than the Judas we must tolerate.)
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WOW! Has this got the liberals and progressives panties in a twist.

Not as long as it's islam, communism or some other anti-American religion...

9 posted on 04/04/2013 12:39:57 PM PDT by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them.)
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In my opinion this is flat-out allowed under the Constitution. If this were to come before the Supreme Court, and they were to read the First Amendement: "Congreess shall make no law ..." and then conclude: "the state of South Carolina is barred from doing this" then it is well and truly time to throw in the towel. The laws, as written, would mean nothing -- we would clearly have only rulership of powerful men who seek to control us as slaves.

And we've dealt with that before.

11 posted on 04/04/2013 12:42:15 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The ballot box is a sham. Nothing will change until after the war.)
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Only applies to Fed Gov. At time of ratification several states had official state religions.


16 posted on 04/04/2013 12:46:30 PM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is dead. I do not owe what we have any loyalty, wealth or sympathy.)
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I think this may be a tactical move to cause a SCOTUS decision confirming the Bill of Rights means what it says.

Of course, librals will find the action anathema. (Pun intended.)

Long-term (several years) this could serve to strengthen the Bill of Rights.


20 posted on 04/04/2013 12:49:52 PM PDT by William of Barsoom (In Omnia, Paratus)
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The document says nothing about establishing a state religion.


26 posted on 04/04/2013 12:57:43 PM PDT by AppyPappy (You never see a massacre at a gun show.)
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As much as I enjoy baiting liberals, does anyone REALLY think this is a good idea?


30 posted on 04/04/2013 1:05:02 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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Up until 1833, there were individual States that still had official State churches. So the idea isn’t illegal under the Constitution at the time. Questions about the 14th amendment cause questions about the Constitutionality of the idea today, but clearly the founders saw no problem with a State Church under the 1st amendment during the first four decades of our nation.


34 posted on 04/04/2013 1:10:18 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - New Robin Hood book out!)
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How about Massachusetts passing a law banning homophobic speech since everybody knows about the free speech clause of same amendment; prohibition on Congress.

As someone else posted you seem to ignore the 14th amendment which applies the constraints of the Bill of Rights on the states as well.


35 posted on 04/04/2013 1:11:21 PM PDT by C19fan
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I wonder if it’ll be ChristIslamUdism?


36 posted on 04/04/2013 1:11:23 PM PDT by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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Didn’t they try to do this right after 9/11? I remember something about NC wanting to become a religious State.


47 posted on 04/04/2013 2:07:49 PM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth ("Give me Liberty or I'll stand up and get it for myself!")
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Except its not true.

North Carolina is not seeking to establish an official State Religion. They are just making a lying clown of the leftist press.


58 posted on 04/04/2013 2:56:44 PM PDT by Monorprise (`)
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Good. Let all of the troublemakers- the liberals, anti-Christians and welfare recipients, move OUT of North Carolina. If they won’t leave on their own- push them out. Let them to go NJ or ILL.


61 posted on 04/04/2013 4:27:44 PM PDT by Truth2012
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“Everyone knows what the U.S.Constitution states about the establishment of religion. This flies right in the face of that, and liberals are, ahem, upset.”

Actually, in a strict constructionist sense the position of those proposing the law in North Carolina would not be going against the U.S. Constitution.

The prohibition against THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT concerning an establishment of religion WAS againts the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, NOT THE STATES, as at the time the Constitution was ratified some states did have an established religion by their state constitution. If it was not contrary to the U.S. constitution when the constitution was ratified, how can it be counter to the U.S. constitution now.

Full disclosure: I would not support such a change, in any state. However, to say the change is prohibited by the U.S. constitution is wrong I believe.


64 posted on 04/04/2013 5:42:16 PM PDT by Wuli
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