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WHEN WERE WE WRONG -- THEN OR NOW?
boblonsberry.com ^ | 03/26/13 | Bob Lonsberry

Posted on 03/26/2013 5:34:25 AM PDT by shortstop

This morning in Washington, the Supreme Court will begin its deliberation of gay marriage.

In some three months time, this august body will tell us what the Constitution does or does not say about a supposed right of homosexual people to marry one another.

In one regard, it will be a momentous decision.

In another, it will be completely meaningless.

It all depends on your definition of truth.

And about what America’s current fascination with gay marriage says about its ancestors and roots.

Because this change in fundamental human definition plays havoc with any concept of absolute truth, and it passes harsh judgment on the peoples, cultures and religions which have gone before. Specifically, it says they all were benighted and hatefully bigoted.

Christianity, Islam and Judaism are a sham, the native cultures of Africa, Asia and America were all oppressive and homophobic, and the great men and great minds of yesterday were socially retarded and inferior to us.

We are the most enlightened and advanced people of all time.

If gay marriage is right.

But if it is wrong, if cultures and millennia past had wisdom and insight, then it is we who are benighted, we who have arrogantly abandoned the ways of truth and right.

If Moses and Mohammed were prophets, if Jesus was divine, if Martin Luther and John Wesley and John Paul II were inspired, if Albert Schweitzer, Marcus Whitman, Mother Theresa and Billy Graham were servants of God, then we are full of crap.

And gay marriage is not liberation, it is licentiousness. Not the new morality, but the old immorality.

See, you can’t embrace the new without disavowing the old. And embracing gay marriage requires disavowing the 4,000 years of recorded human opposition to it. So aberrant is this concept that for millennia humankind could not even conceive of it.

From the remotest corner of human habitation to the complex civilizations of the Greeks and the Egyptians, the Persians and the British, the Romans and the Incas, in all those places over all those years humankind knew no such thing as gay marriage, and taught – regardless of civilization or religion – a marital and family unit built upon the foundation of a man and a woman.

That is what the native people of the Arctic taught, it is what the great cultures of Europe lived, what was practiced in the successive dynasties of China and Japan, what was taught to youngsters in the myriad tribes of Africa, what was modeled by the peoples of Native America, and recorded in the sacred books of Judaism, Christianity, Islam and Hinduism.

And now, we disavow them all.

They were closed-minded bigots, inferior savages whose wisdom and faith were flawed and defective.

Over all those generations, and all those years, all the great philosophers and writers and preachers, they all got it wrong.

Shakespeare blew it. Plato and Aristotle were clueless. Freud missed this one. No one putting pen to paper was smart enough to come up with this.

Which makes us very, very smart.

Or very, very dumb.

We have, in our day, declared that God is wrong and that, therefore, there is no God. Because a god whose morality is inferior to our own is no god indeed. For two thousand years the Christian God got it wrong. The Judaic God was off for four or six thousand years. The Allah of Islam has led his people astray for 1,400 years. Father Abraham, revered by a large percentage of the world’s peoples, was full of crap.

He worshipped a God who discriminated.

He worshipped a God who lied.

If gay marriage is right.

If gay marriage is right, there is no such thing as absolute truth. Absolute truth – which never changes and always stands – has been replaced with situational truth, which is no truth at all. Truth today is determined by pollsters and elections and, soon, the Supreme Court.

We have dismissed the wisdom of the heavens and the wisdom of the ages, and we rely upon our own understanding.

We don’t respect the past, we spit in its face.

It is an unavoidable conclusion. If gay marriage is fine, than it has always been fine, and those who have taught against it have been ignoramuses and bigots. They and the causes and cultures in which they bore sway must be denounced and rejected and wrong and bankrupt.

The churches have all been wrong, the imams have all been wrong, the Torah has all been wrong, the preaching of all of organized religion, for centuries on end, was wrong.

And you can’t get bad fruit off a good tree.

If these cultures and faiths taught falsehood, then they are themselves false.

If gay marriage is right.

But if it is wrong, if the wisdom of the ages really is wisdom and the fad of today is nothing more than the folly of yesterday, then it is not the past which is wrong.

It is the present.

Christianity has not been enlightened, it has been abandoned. Cultures and civilizations that circled the world were not wrong, we are wrong. Truth is not found in public-opinion polls, it is found in the heavens.

Because both can’t be right.

Our cultural and religious heritage cannot be legitimate and gay marriage be legitimate, because the two are mutually exclusive. It is a case of one or the other: The collective wisdom of humankind and its traditional religions, or the current obsession with gay marriage.

Pick one.

But you can’t have both.

No matter what the Supreme Court decides.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; lonsberry; supremecourt
With two suspected lesbians on the court and the lesbian sister of our Chief Justice in the audience for the proceedings, this can not end well. This will be a further indication of the degradation of our society. But what do I know?
1 posted on 03/26/2013 5:34:25 AM PDT by shortstop
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To: shortstop

God will not be mocked.


2 posted on 03/26/2013 5:37:20 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: shortstop

This is but one example of the difference in epistemology between a Biblical worldview and the Humanist/Satanist worldview.

The source of truth for a Christian/Jew is the Bible. God’s Word revealed to mankind.

The source of truth for a Humanist is whatever the contemporary “elite” humans want to be true.


3 posted on 03/26/2013 5:40:09 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: shortstop

I’m reminded of the quote from Chesterton: “A dead thing can go with the stream, but only a living thing can go against it.”


4 posted on 03/26/2013 5:46:34 AM PDT by Dad was my hero
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To: shortstop

Excellent article!


5 posted on 03/26/2013 5:49:50 AM PDT by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
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To: shortstop
+1 !


And a humungous AMEN to this bit, regardless his between the lines pandering to them otherwise:  The Allah of Islam has led his people astray for 1,400 years

6 posted on 03/26/2013 5:58:03 AM PDT by tomkat
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To: shortstop

Surprisingly enough, media leftists, the SCOTUS can’t tell me what to believe.


7 posted on 03/26/2013 6:13:19 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: shortstop

(this august body will tell us what the Constitution does or does not say about a supposed right of homosexual people to marry one another. )

The US Constitution says NOTHING about making a sin against God and a crime against nature legit. Nowhere in our Constitution does it do any such thing.


8 posted on 03/26/2013 6:18:45 AM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the American Revolution 2013 and the Crusades 2013?)
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To: shortstop
Let's see if Robert's sticks to his philosophy that it's not the courts job to protect the People from what they vote for.
9 posted on 03/26/2013 6:30:42 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: Dad was my hero
Excellent! that one's going in my quotes arsenal.

CC

10 posted on 03/26/2013 7:13:24 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Hey liberals, what part of "unalienable" don't you understand?)
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To: Falcon4.0

nice hoisting him on his own petard...

hehehehe

t


11 posted on 03/26/2013 7:21:40 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Falcon4.0
Let's see if Robert's sticks to his philosophy that it's not the courts job to protect the People from what they vote for.

And the people of California voted 60% against homosexual marriage. So the militant homosexuals said, the people are wrong and we will challenge it in court. They have lost in every court before. You see, the children of darkness are more committed than the children of light.

These Satanic worshippers will not stop, ever. Their mission is to destroy the family and everything related to God and his just and moral teachings.

Christians beware, persecution is not far behind.

12 posted on 03/26/2013 8:00:32 AM PDT by thirst4truth (www.Believer.com)
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To: shortstop

So nine mere mortals, some very flawed in their thinking, get to tell us to ignore God’s word, the Bible, and act according to their secular dictates? It matters not what the “supremes” think since the matter has already been decided by a higher authority. Those who choose man’s law over God’s law will suffer eternal damnation.


13 posted on 03/26/2013 9:39:30 AM PDT by lakecumberlandvet
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To: shortstop

Bob’s writing style still annoys me, but he has a fine point here. Well done, Bob.


14 posted on 03/26/2013 9:41:22 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("AP" clearly stands for American Pravda. Our news media has become completely and proudly Soviet.)
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To: shortstop; gov_bean_ counter
If gay marriage is right, there is no such thing as absolute truth. Absolute truth – which never changes and always stands – has been replaced with situational truth, which is no truth at all.

Excellent point. If they rule for Sodomite "marriage" they are ruling for relativism and God is dead.

15 posted on 03/26/2013 12:13:43 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (The amount of ammo you need is determined after the gunfight.)
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To: MrB
The source of truth for a Humanist is whatever the contemporary “elite” humans want to be true.

Yes. The East Anglia e-mails and the JournoList divulgences obtained by Tucker Carlson et al. have proved now, beyond any peradventure of a doubt, what the real attitude of the Left "humanists" is toward any conception of truth.

Orwell had it right. These people are, in fact, the boot stamping on a human face forever. Some "humanism".

The upside is, now we can see them plainly. You should have heard Charlie Rose's table last night, which Charlie stacked three or four to one (counting himself as a liberal moonbat) against the solitary, embattled conservative. One of them was calling it out in the open: In future, he said, people will [be encouraged to] look back in amazement at the obviousness of "gay is okay, and if you ain't okay with it, then you ain't okay", and at the bigotry and homophobia of contemporary society. So there it is. "He who has ears ...."

Nina Totenberg was dispensing the same crap in the language of Ultimate Finality of Judgment on NPR at lunchtime. Undeterred and unschooled, btw, by the intellectual butt-whipping she just got the other day, pants down, from Charlie Kraut in Macy's storefront window.

16 posted on 03/26/2013 12:48:52 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Excellent point. If they rule for Sodomite "marriage" they are ruling for relativism and God is dead.

Which reminds me of that old joke about God's opinion of Nietzsche.

17 posted on 03/26/2013 12:50:22 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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