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Rand Paul: Bush and Obama 'lucky' not to be in jail for drug use
POLITICO ^ | KEVIN CIRILLI

Posted on 03/24/2013 1:07:20 PM PDT by JohnPDuncan

Sen. Rand Paul said Sunday that President Barack Obama and former President George W. Bush could have "conceivably been put in jail” for their drug use, ruining their lives and impacting their getting elected to office.

"Look, the last two presidents could have conceivably been put in jail for their drug use and I really think - look what would've happened, it would've ruined their lives. They got lucky. But a lot of poor kids, particularly in the inner city, don't get lucky and they don't have good attorneys and they go to jail for some of these things and I think it's a big mistake,” the Kentucky Republican said on Fox’s “Fox News Sunday.”

"Actually, I think it would be the last three presidents, but who's counting?" host Chris Wallace said with a laugh, referring to former President Bill Clinton.

"There you go," Paul said.

"But he didn't inhale," Wallace quipped.

Paul said that he doesn’t support people using marijuana but said he also doesn’t necessarily support putting them in jail for extended periods of time.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; Miscellaneous; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: 113tword; demagogue; dopersrights; drugs; drugwar; fff; kentucky; libertarians; medicalmarijuana; potheads; presidentswod; randpaul; randsconcerntrolls; revisionisthistory; rino; stuckonstupid; thekycandidate; warondrugs; waronterror; wod; wodlist; wosd
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To: Monty22002

Are you sure? We have so little information about obama, soetero or whatever his name is this week, that I am not sure of his criminal history either. Who knows.


141 posted on 03/24/2013 6:55:53 PM PDT by I_be_tc
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To: SSDecontrol

Yeah, prostitution is a trickier issue but even in areas where it is legal like Nevada, it’s only legal outside city limits of the big cities like Reno and LV so-as not to ruin things for visitors.


142 posted on 03/24/2013 7:24:34 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: AppyPappy
Paul can’t help but show his Libertarian side. Nuttiness usually walks hand-in-hand with libertarian political leanings.

Paul is over simplifying drug use. There is really no such thing as non violent offenders.
First consider all of the violence committed to bring the drugs to the streets. Now consider all of the violence that occurs in the streets such as gangs killing each other to control the drug sales in that area.
Now the person who purchases the drugs may not have committed a violent crime, but he is the cause of the violence that has been committed to bring the drugs to him.

143 posted on 03/24/2013 7:34:37 PM PDT by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: oldbrowser

So was everyone who took a drink during Prohibition a violent offender?


144 posted on 03/24/2013 7:54:14 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: JohnPDuncan

Bush had the deficit down to 200 billion before pelosi took the gavel. You really think that’S the same as Obama’s trillions in deficits?


145 posted on 03/24/2013 9:07:32 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Bratch

You’ve got it right about Foley. I can still remember how “outraged” conservatives refused to vote in the house elections because of one gay congressman. So what did we get as a result? San Francisco took the gavel of the house With pelosi and today gay marriage is happening all over the place. Foley was one of the left’S most successful October surprises ever and the right fell for it hook line and sinker.


146 posted on 03/24/2013 9:15:56 PM PDT by what's up
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To: JohnPDuncan
Rand is like his dad. We are going to have problems with him. He will help the GOP in causing divisions which ahs already started. He had no business campaign President Bush to Obama. Obama is a die-hard Markist. Bush did some things wrong but he loves his country and he stood for on traditional marriage. I give him that. I appreciate it, too.
Rand has so much power; he cannot control what he says. He put on a show and still voted for the people he said were not qualified. What is he this week? Libertarian or conservative or an insider looking for love.
147 posted on 03/24/2013 11:38:57 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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To: Christie at the beach

>>>divisions have already started.... He had no business >>>>comparing President Bush to Obama. Obama is a die-hard Markist


148 posted on 03/24/2013 11:43:32 PM PDT by Christie at the beach
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It wont be long when the police state built by the wod is turned on the same conservatives who cheered it all on lustfully.

Intellectual dishonesty bears a high price. Pot is illegal because of timber..drug..and beer companies fearing losing percentiles of profit. The poppy plant is illegal to grow because we could all just make a paste out of it that is far more effective and far less addictive than the pain meds big pharm compounds out of it...but where is the profit in that?
How could the Bush family have made its fortune in the opium trade without outlawing the poppy?
How could the CIA fund all those ops without profits made in the illegal cocaine and heroin trade?

All the swat teams...all the armor...all the innocent blood..and all the hard earned rights YOU CHEERFULLY gave away...because the very thought someone might like to get a buzz in a way YOU don’t approve of.

Enjoy the taste of your bootleather pro wod conservatives...it oughta go real nice with the taste of rights you helped destroy when they knock down your door and take you off to the camps.


149 posted on 03/25/2013 12:21:16 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen (Dave Mustaine for president.)
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To: Bratch; All

In some areas half the people in jail are there for mandatory sentences for non violent drug convictions. Time to stop wasting our money on that kind of thing. Why do we want to support the Prison Corporation of America, unless we are stockholders. Also, if we are going to give the job to corporations not the government, then we should withhold part of their payment until the released prisoner has not recidivized for 5 years. Give the corporations an incentive to do job training, and get drugs out of prisons so people can kick their habits.


150 posted on 03/25/2013 12:24:47 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

The prisons and public unions (guards) are HUGE special interests and require a steady stream of fresh ‘victims’.


151 posted on 03/25/2013 3:26:27 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: Christie at the beach

So what if Rand is like his dad? I’d certainly hope he is.

Bush was like his dad... he invaded countries, told lies and spent big. That was a problem for me.


152 posted on 03/25/2013 4:33:04 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: what's up

What’s a few hundred billions between friends? Bush took Clinton and Gingrich’s balanced budget and turned into a fiscal nightmare. Obama is just continuing that practice.

Remember when Cheney said “deficits don’t matter”, oh really?


153 posted on 03/25/2013 4:34:31 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: Christie at the beach

“Rand is like his dad.”

That comment makes no sense. They are completely different. But if you can find a Ron Paul quote trashing Bush and Obama feel free to ping me.


154 posted on 03/25/2013 4:37:12 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: SSDecontrol; trisham; little jeremiah; cripplecreek; wagglebee; Responsibility2nd; JohnPDuncan
134 posted on 3/24/2013 7:21:12 PM by SSDecontrol:“I have no problem with legal prostitution. We aren’t children after all and don’t need big brother to go about moralizing telling us what two consenting adults can and cant do. Government ought to be out of peoples hair.. this is the conservative position afterall.”

If legalized prostitution is conservative, I'm not a conservative.

Fortunately, in every state except Nevada, I can say the law is on my side and against your side.

Why do we have people advocating legalized prostitution on Free Republic?

155 posted on 03/25/2013 5:12:49 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: JohnPDuncan; Responsibility2nd; trisham; wagglebee; little jeremiah; cripplecreek
Somebody explain to me why Barack Obama (or Barry O’Bama, as he was known back then) being sent to jail for substance abuse would have been a bad thing.

As far as George W. Bush's substance abuse is concerned, I think he **DID** get arrested for and convicted of drunk driving. Once that was discovered, it nearly cost him the 2000 election.

Rand Paul says a lot of good things, but then he goes off and says stuff that sounds a lot too much like his father.

102 posted on 3/24/2013 5:44:08 PM by Responsibility2nd: “You are a troll. But I've known that for months now. When you finally get a well-deserved zot - please read the comments that will follow. You'll see me among the gloaters.”

Look, we all know these things go in cycles. Free Republic used to ban Ron Paul supporters, sometimes zotting them on sight. I remember a Class of 1998 Freeper being zotted merely because he said he'd vote for Ron Paul.

Today Rand Paul is popular in some conservative circles and the Paulbots are coming back out of the woodwork.

Enjoy your reprieve, Paulbots. If Rand Paul starts acting like a responsible elected official, I'll be right out front defending your right to be considered a legitimate wing of the Republican Party. But if, as I suspect, the Rand Paul apple hasn't fallen far from the Ron Paul tree, it will only be a matter of time until the reprieve ends and the zots begin anew.

As far as I'm concerned, libertarians who advocate amorality and who don't support a strong defense are not conservatives but rather a cancer in our midst. On the other hand, libertarians who want to focus on issues of personal freedom and fiscal discipline while staying quiet on social issues and military issues are people I can work with, just as I'm happy to support decorated combat veterans who may not share my moral values but are otherwise solid conservatives.

People's positions take time to fully develop, and while Ron Paul is a known commodity, I'll give Rand Paul the benefit of the doubt so we can find out where he stands.

156 posted on 03/25/2013 5:18:44 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: darrellmaurina

I’ll agree with anyone if they’re right and disagree with them if they’re wrong. In this case, Rand Paul is repeating a false mantra about people in prison for simple possession of small amounts of drugs.


157 posted on 03/25/2013 5:28:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: darrellmaurina
Why do we have people advocating legalized prostitution on Free Republic?

Good question. And why do we have people advocating legalized drug usage on Free Republic?

If legalized prostitution is conservative, I'm not a conservative.

Then according to a growing majority of FReepers - you are not a conservative. The libertarian segment of FReepers around here are getting more and more vocal as they advocate for amnesty, abortion, legal drugs, prostitution and on and on.

Just as there is no unity in the GOP, there is no unity at Free Republic.Its Libertarians vs. SoCons.

158 posted on 03/25/2013 6:23:34 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: darrellmaurina

I’d rather be a Paulbot than a Bushbot.

Are you a Bushbot?


159 posted on 03/25/2013 6:31:34 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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To: darrellmaurina

Are you aware that the Founders didn’t even want a standing military?

So, if I take the founders position of not wanting a standing army, am I an extremist who is not for a strong national defense? Are you calling the FOUNDERS extremists and anti-American?


160 posted on 03/25/2013 6:33:11 AM PDT by JohnPDuncan
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