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Gun deaths shaped by race in America
Washington Post ^ | 3/22/2013

Posted on 03/24/2013 3:45:40 AM PDT by Altura Ct.

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To: Altura Ct.
Gun deaths shaped by race in America

It's not the gun, it's the culture. In this case it's culture where one murders an unborn child because it might disrupt "American Idol".

When you embrace a culture where "life is cheap" your own is worth only as much as the value you place on others.

The gun is just a tool used to realize this evil, to imply it is the cause of it is unfathomable ignorance. Yet this is what we have come to expect from the left and they have never disappointed us on it.

21 posted on 03/24/2013 4:53:49 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Altura Ct.

What it deliberately didn’t say is the race of the people who kill Blacks. Do they want the reader to conclude that it’s Whites?


22 posted on 03/24/2013 4:57:00 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Of the black population that commits 52 percent of the murders, 4 percent are black males between 15 and 60 years of age. So 4 percent of the population commits probably 45+ percent of the homicides in the USA, year after year.

And Many are convicted felons who cant legally have a gun in the first place.

Despite the headline of the article, The Washington Post goes out of their way to avoid revealing the central issue on guns and race. Orwellian is the operative word here.


23 posted on 03/24/2013 5:00:35 AM PDT by Uncle Lonny
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To: I want the USA back

Yes.


24 posted on 03/24/2013 5:02:23 AM PDT by sport
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To: Altura Ct.

Poor little Treyvons all over the country are being killed by all these guns walking around. Lost in the article is who’s doing all these shootings.


25 posted on 03/24/2013 5:06:18 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: Altura Ct.

“A Washington Post-ABC News poll this month found that about three-quarters of blacks support stronger controls, compared with about half of whites.”

BWAHAHAHAHAHA! This is the most laughable quote of the whole article. Do you think the Post stopped and asked themselves WHY blacks might support stronger gun control? I think we all know the REAL answer to that!


26 posted on 03/24/2013 5:06:49 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: Triple

ok - the key figures were in the full article.

The homicide rate for blacks is 10 times the rate for whites even though gun ownership is dramatically lower among blacks. So, the gun control laws in the cities are an utter failure at keeping down “gun deaths” in black populations.

Although gun control laws may have a slight impact on white suicide (by gun). There is no overall suicide rate given. So we don’t know if whites just choose another method.


27 posted on 03/24/2013 5:10:44 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: ImNotLying

WOW! Those strict gun control laws in Chicago have sure made a difference!


28 posted on 03/24/2013 5:15:12 AM PDT by ImNotLying (The MSM bears a close resemblance to the world's oldest profession!)
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To: Red in Blue PA

Rather than a national epidemic, it is a global phenomenon. Check murder rates by country worldwide.


29 posted on 03/24/2013 5:15:54 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Altura Ct.

Likely using URBAN city data. It is a documented FACT that the City of Atlanta has been caught, at least once, by the FBI LYING about its murder statistics. This happened under POLICE CHIEF BEVERLY HARVARD (whose only qualification was that she had been a driver for the Mayor).


30 posted on 03/24/2013 5:17:11 AM PDT by Gaffer
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“Gun deaths are shaped by race in America. Whites are far more likely to shoot themselves, and African Americans are far more likely to be shot by someone else.  The statistical difference is dramatic.”

The Compost admits that race shapes gun use in America, but they use word trickery to remain politically correct.  

Notice that when discussing white gun use the Compost states, “Whites are far more likely to shoot themselves”.  Yet, when noting black gun use the Compost states, “African Americans are far more likely to be shot by someone else.”

See what the Compost did?  The first statement is how white gun owners use their gun — most often to kill themselves, not others.  But the second statement is not black gun owners at all.  Instead it’s about how black people in general are more likely to get shot.  It paints the image of black people as innocent victims of guns.  

If the Compost wanted to be honest, they would draw direct equivalents.  They would write, “White gun owners are more likely to shoot and kill themselves, while black gun owners are more likely to shoot and kill someone else.”  This, however, tells the truth regarding the major perpetrators of gun violence, and the Cultural Marxists at the Compost can’t allow that.


31 posted on 03/24/2013 5:18:53 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: babygene
The problem with that hypothesis is that these numbers on blacks killing blacks have been pretty steady for as long as murder records have been kept.

Black people have an exceptionally barbaric professional criminal class. Sometimes it's over selling sex, othertimes it'll be booze, or drugs, or just 'turf'. That class was present when this was a predominantly rural nation in fact. It was probably part of the warp and woof in the background of slavery. It occurs in black communities in every nation on earth where those communities exist.

South Africa, which was never subjected to the slave trade ~ which filtered that kind of person out of the mix ~ has an ENORMOUS murder rate ~ highest in the world!

This deal probably goes back tens of thousands of years ~

32 posted on 03/24/2013 5:38:02 AM PDT by muawiyah
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There are two reasons ~ those who profit from the existence of the black criminal class would like to see everybody else disarmed. Those who are victimized by the black criminal class would like to see the black criminal class disarmed.

The Democrat politicians profit from the existence ~

33 posted on 03/24/2013 5:40:29 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Altura Ct.

Article looks at only part of the problem.
The real problem isn’t mentioned at all.

I can see the editors sitting around trying to determining a way of to seemingly address the ‘gun’ issue without violating the PC agenda.

’ Let’s see, we can’t address the perp by race stats, that would be racist.’
‘Can’t show perp race v. gun crime’
‘ How about suicide v. geographic location?’
‘ Yeah, that looks impressive!’


34 posted on 03/24/2013 5:41:13 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Astute readers know the Post dodged carrying the simile forward because, as it turns out, a lot of blacks are being shot by hispanics ~ and its the hispanics the Post has more recently begun carrying the water for!


35 posted on 03/24/2013 5:42:03 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Whites are far more likely to shoot themselves, and African Americans are far more likely to be shot by someone else.

So whites do the shooting and blacks do the getting shot? Wow WP, did you have to work on twisting that statement or does it just come natural now?

The greatest disparity by race is in who the perps are in all crime, not in who the victims are.

36 posted on 03/24/2013 5:44:42 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Altura Ct.

According to Gallup, a group that doesn't even own many guns is responsible for a disproportionate amount of gun violence in the United States.

If you watch prime-time TV, you'd think that a typical murderer and a typical murder victim are the opposite of what they actually are.

If the screen writers were realistic, they'd just need to film one episode, and play it over and over again.

37 posted on 03/24/2013 5:48:54 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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Gun deaths shaped by race in America

African Americans are far more likely to be shot by someone else.

So, just who are the bastards that are shooting all these unfortunate black people?

38 posted on 03/24/2013 5:54:20 AM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Hey RATS! Control your murdering freaks.)
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To: muawiyah

” It was probably part of the warp and woof in the background of slavery.”

I don’t know... That part’s counter intuitive to me. It seems to me that some races of people are more likely to become slaves than others. I would think that a less violent race would be more apt to be subjected to slavery.

For example, the American Indian population did not make very good slaves. One of the reason we imported blacks...


39 posted on 03/24/2013 5:55:26 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: Gaffer
This happened under POLICE CHIEF BEVERLY HARVARD (whose only qualification was that she had been a driver for the Mayor).

I suspect that being a driver for the mayor was only a secondary (or tertiary) qualification.

"I have had a dream.."

40 posted on 03/24/2013 5:57:29 AM PDT by niteowl77 (Oh, crap.)
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