Posted on 03/20/2013 6:13:34 PM PDT by Daffynition
SEATTLE -- The passage of I-502 made things difficult enough for the humans tasked with creating and enforcing the laws for legal marijuana. Now, try explaining the difference between "personal use" and "intent to sell" or the gray area between state and federal law to a dog.
That's why many law-enforcement agencies around the state, including the Seattle Police Department and Washington State Patrol, will no longer be training their drug-sniffing dogs to alert for marijuana.
“Moving forward, it makes most sense not to train dogs to alert to marijuana as that would likely lead to unwarranted investigatory detentions of people who are not breaking any law," said Alison Holcomb, author of I-502 and drug policy director for the American Civil Liberties Union.
The Washington Association of Prosecuting Attorneys sent out a memo advising the state's law-enforcement agencies that narcotics dogs are no longer required to be trained to alert for marijuana in December. And, marijuana was removed from the Washington State Criminal Justice Training Commission's Canine Performance Standards test in January.
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A more casual smoker could probably make it last a couple months.
my friend who works in drug court says that marijuana these days is much stronger than it used to be. “This is not your father’s marijuana.”
So how stoned would someone get on one ounce? Would you get arrested for smoking one ounce of the new marijuana, but with the old-time stuff you could smoke two ounces? Where will it be sold? Will there be brand names? Advertising? Point-of-sale posters and other marketing aids? Who are the distributors? The state?
Will there be tests like breatholators for overconsumption? What will they measure?
What a mess, so many ways this can be done wrong.
Well, the way ObamScare was thought up, you know, mandatory that we pay for other people's birth control including abortion.
It is possible that we will have to pay for other people's 'medicinal' mj.
Plus, boner problems and sex change operations.
Good Night, stop me before I croak!
I am too verklempt.
So are they going to force employers to have to hire the stoners?
We are certainly in trouble. Good Night.....
Yes to most of these questions, other than the distributor/sales, at least here in WA. The details are being worked out, including commercial growing permits, how much to grow in aggregate and how to price it (has to be high enough for the state to take a meaningful share of tax but not so high to lose many sales to the black market). Liquor sales just went from the state to private so I don't think marijuana will be sold by the state. Very likely some subset of the retail liquor distributors will get it. There has to be some identifying hologram or whatever on the package to distinguish it from black market. Maybe actual DNA identifiers later. State already has blood tests for DUI set up.
I read the same thing in an autobiography of a jazzman, who used to occasionally smoke reefers back in the 1930s. He tried marijuana on a lark decades later in life (1970s/80s, I think), and was absolutely floored at how more potent the strains had gotten. It scared the hell out of him, and he didn’t try it again.
Although, on the other hand, I always also recall my grandfather relating his first encounter with it. He never even heard of marijuana until he was about thirty years old, but he made a trip to Houston in the late-1920s or early-1930s, and saw some Mexican woman writhing in a gutter. Perplexed, he asked someone standing nearby, and found out she was all high from smoking reefers.
Getting old is a bitch. Grampa doesn't like roller coasters anymore, either.
Doesn't change the fact that the WOD has screwed up the country more than it's helped it.
Interesting. I guess it’s getting stronger all the time, and not in a good way. Traffic accidents and crime rates will go up.
Thanks for all that info.
I bet if we dug down to the roots of manufacturing, sale and distribution, we’d find tobacco companies. They’ve lost sales in the last decade, have knowledge and equipment to grow and process marijuana cigarettes. If indeed, it will be in cigarette form. Do you know?
Or does grannie have to roll her own?
I would think it’s more likely for a person in a gutter to be drunk than stoned but certainly can’t talk from experience. Is a semi-comatose or confusional state common? Wonder if this involved some degree of ataxia?
Once marijuana becomes available here I certainly will be on the lookout for people writhing in gutters, and if it seems safe might ask one what led to their being there.
I think so too. More traffic deaths, more crime, more creepy dopeheads hanging around in public. Another step down into the degenerate cultural sewer that America has become.
I’m just relating what my grandfather told me, regarding his first ‘encounter’ with it. She might have been boozed up too. Whatever the case, it certainly left an impression on him, and probably solidified his notion of dope and the dregs of society going hand-in-hand. Which is a contention I pretty much share.
They are considering building huge greenhouse-type structures adjacent to the hop fields near Yakima. There is water and plenty of sun six months of the year. I believe the crop has to be grown in state and none can be exported. Tobacco, of course, wouldn’t do so well here so there is no tobacco company presence.
The preliminary product depictions I’ve seen were baggie-type things that are imprinted with the state’s seal. They were also discussing something like brownies or cookies. If I ever tried it, one of those would probably be my choice. Probably only once as $5 cookies or whatever wouldn’t last long in my budget.
No idea if there will eventually be marijuana cigarettes. I don’t think the state knows yet. They just hired their primary consultant for business strategy as well as agricultural and distribution aspects. There’s a whole lot to do by December on this when you consider how long the state takes to get anything done (no problem for the black market).
They also don’t even know where they will get the seeds yet for the first crop. That is kind of a difficult legal problem for the state.
Speaking for some former associatess, pot was usually purchased in 1/8 and 1/4 ounce bags, or grams. A gram was good for 3-6 doobies, depending on how fresh the weed and how good the roller.
3.5 grams/eighth. Do your own math.
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