Posted on 03/19/2013 5:58:39 AM PDT by servo1969
This was a show they did a few years ago. It shows the steps taken in producing .22LR ammunition at ATK's CCI facility in Lewiston, ID. There are a few steps they don't show, if you are really interested, I highly recommend reading this book: http://tinyurl.com/4z6yxn4
Part 2 is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdNkfTS0lOQ
Johnny Carson once caused a nearly month-long toilet paper shortage simple by saying that it was in short supply (as a joke).
Even when the shelves were replenished, people would buy it all up again perpetuating the perception that it was in short supply.
Need ammo? Prepare to pay up, and shop hard as shell shortage intensifies
http://rapidcityjournal.com/news/need-ammo-prepare-to-pay-up-and-shop-hard-as/article_2208efc8-0089-5d0c-b820-0ab28594736b.html
.22 ammo shortage not likely to last
http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20130319/LOCAL0201/303199965/1002/LOCAL
Local gun dealer blasts conspiracy theories on ammo shortage
http://www.abc27.com/story/21676276/local-gun-dealer-blasts-conspiracy-theories-on-ammo-shortage
Lots of opinions. I suspect regardless of what is said, it will continue for a while.
Just wait until it all settles out.
Unfortunately, the prices are going to be “sticky” until the supply and demand curve normalizes.
-——So where is it all?-——
It’s in the ammo bubble
“22 ammo shortage not likely to last”
Correct, BUT larger caliber rifle ammo and guns are going to be in heavy demand into the forseeable future. This will not die down this year.
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Hey, at least that's a full brick of target-grade ammo (CCI Green Tag, I'm guessing). It's a bit pricey even in normal times. Last night, I saw a 100-count box of CCI Mini-Mags priced at $49.00 online. That's high-quality ammo, but at 50 cents per cartridge it can stay on the shelf.
I have mixed opinions about both of those. I look at what I have done myself. Late last year, noticing the diminishing available supply on shelves, I started changing my home stock from months to years of supply. I am not shooting the larger calibers more, actually less due to cost and fear of replacement supply. But as long as I can keep a decent 22 LR supply on hand, I will probably continue to shoot that more often than I have been.
Granted, the 22LR is not simple to find. But I have changed my routines stopping in at local shops a couple times a week instead of every few months. Sometimes I get lucky and have been able to build up my stock without spending too much additional. I check stores that limit sales to a box or so, rather than the stores that jacked prices to equal demand.
I am spending more in gas looking around, but since I combine it with a normal going out for lunch, it is not too great of an additional expense or time requirement. Just a new hobby for me. The real risk is going to the gun department that often is greatly increasing desires for other purchases, particularly 17 HMR and 38 special as I see that caliber more often than many others.
Too many people believe they need only the best ammo.
If you can’t put meat on the table with cheap ammo, you’re not really hungry.
Tomorrow you will be a better hunter and a better shot.
The solution is simple. If you do not wish to pay someone for the value of their being smarter or more on the ball, then find out how they do it and compete. Otherwise quit the crying about some mean ol capitalists doing what you don’t want to do and making a profit from it.
That’s the round that puts most of the meat on the table, and people that are used to eating small game on a day to day basis aren’t going to go without.
People that are willing to pay over $80 for a brick because they think they need only the very best ammo, aren’t people that routinely shoot to put food on the table.
Why?
Let people purchase things at a price the market will bear.
When that ammo sits on the shelves, the prices will drop.
Until then, calling for a boycott is a non-starter because it isn’t logical and it just won’t work.
Let the markets decide.
I agree. I expect that most .22 LR are not even making it to the WalMart’s. Probably going out the back door for someone on the inside making $.
I refuse to feed the beast.
Actually I was in Wal-Mart when the ammo cart came out to the sporting goods section. Instead of stocking it, he was handing it out to the customers waiting hands. I got two 225 count Remington Golden 22 l.r. boxes because I was in the right place at the right time.
This will pass, though, he said, but it might take six or eight months
A lot of us do most of our practicing with 22LR to save on the higher caliber stuff. I got a thousand rounds of WPA .223 this weekend and ironically I will be shooting my AR15 more than my .22.
Hells bells, I spend 2 hours on line the other night to find 12 gauge #4 buckshot. Bought a case of the stuff. *Supposedly* it is only back ordered for a week or two. Of course Cabelas told me that for my brick of .22LR back in December. Ain't seen it yet.
New reality TV show “Ammo Wars” .
“So where is it all?”
Packed in 500 round bricks you can fit ~22000 rounds into a cubic foot and it weighs about 132 pounds. The 4 million round daily output would fit neatly into a walk in closet with space left over.It doesn’t take up much space.
The perception of shortage can lead to the reality of shortage...
Johnny Carson once caused a near month long toilet paper shortage in the U.S. in December of 1973. In his show, he said, You know whats disappearing from the supermarket shelves? Toilet paper Theres an acute shortage of toilet paper in the United States. Americans promptly went out and bought up every piece of toilet paper they could find. Supermarkets tried to ration it, but to no avail. By noon the next day, pretty much all the nations supermarkets were sold out.
After several days of toilet paper shortages due to this hysteria, Carson went on the air to try to explain it had been a joke and apologized. But because the shelves were almost always empty of toilet paper at this time, whenever some would come in, people would buy it all and hoard it. This toilet paper shortage lasted a full three weeks.
I do remember the tp shortage.
Not the Johnny Carson part though.
Because of the “oil crisis” and gasoline availability, and also Nixon’s wage and price controls, I do remember folks being very sensitized to shortages.
Now that we have the internet, social media, etc, this mentality will run wild when shortages do begin creeping in as the inevitable economic implosion approaches.
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