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SWAT officer attracts ridicule after he’s pictured with his rifle sight on backwards
Daily Mail ^ | March 16, 2013 | DAILY MAIL REPORTER

Posted on 03/16/2013 12:35:50 AM PDT by expat1000

A SWAT team in upstate New York is being mocked as an example of the difference between military and police training after an officer was captured peering through a backwards sight on his combat rifle.

As users on the military Reddit were quick to point out when the image was posted, the reverse sight makes it effectively useless.

Users mocked the SWAT officers training and some went so far as to question the motives of some of the men serving in local law enforcement.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; gunsandammo; police; sniper; swat
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To: expat1000

Remember the DEA agent who shot himself in the leg/foot showing-off his Glock to some 4th or 5th graders?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxd6Vh5JJSs


41 posted on 03/16/2013 7:13:38 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (The Greatest Power The Corrupt, Criminal US Media Has, Is The Power To Ignore The Truth.)
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To: expat1000
Good catch, I think. What the heck is he doing? The muzzle’s going to jump straight up if he fires like that. Bye, bye, sight picture. Possibly he’s more concerned about not exposing himself than actually hitting anything.

In any event, launching a rifled slug or a 3" buckshot load off the hood without having control of the fore end would provide a strong incentive to not do it again.

There is another picture from the same incident floating about that shows the guy with the camo and copious tactical gear putting his trigger finger dang near up on top of his shotgun's receiver; I can only assume that to be another modern technique taught only to those whom government has elevated over peons such as myself.

Mr. niteowl77

42 posted on 03/16/2013 7:23:46 AM PDT by niteowl77 (Oh, crap.)
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To: niteowl77

Actually, if you look closely there is no charging handle on the bolt of the shotgun so I think it’s a pump action. Maybe he thinks its a single shot, ‘cause he’s not going to get a second round off in a timely manner with both hands on the butt stock. (but then, I’m not a trained professional like that fellow)


43 posted on 03/16/2013 7:29:36 AM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

He’s Protecting and Serving, of course. His personal bullets tearing through the flesh of various and assorted New York residents are the only things keeping us from descending into tyranny, terror and chaos. So let’s be sure to salute him each time he shoots another citizen.


44 posted on 03/16/2013 7:33:04 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
*** I’ve seen cops do things that would get them kicked off of most ranges. ***

Yeah, some cops aren't exactly 'the sharpest knife in the drawer'. Case in point the Chicago PD.

In Chicago all cops have to buy their own duty weapon (which is good IMO). And there's a list of approved manufacturers that cops can choose from along with approved calibers: 9mm, 357Sig, 40S&W & iirc 45ACP. But this is where is gets ... 'interesting' (dumb).

Rookies -- from graduating the Academy to 1 year of service *may* buy and use a Glock 9mm for their duty weapon. However after that time Glocks of any caliber are FORBIDDEN for all cops, period, no exception. And that ex-Rookie must now dump another $600 min on a new duty weapon and put that Glock 9mm back in the 'dresser drawer' as his personal / off-duty weapon (or trade it in or sell it, most don't).

The Reason for Glock Ban -- a 'few' years ago a CPD Commander shot himself in the leg with his Glock. Natch, the Commander blamed the Glock for the ... 'accidental discharge' (LOL) and had the big brass ban all Glocks as duty weapons. But again, not for Rookies, only 'veteran' cops.

Now if Glocks are so unsafe why would they be allowed at all? Are the lives of Rookie cops worth less than 'veterans'? If not why can they use Glocks but then must sh*t-can them at one year. It makes zero sense.

Now I'm far from a Cop Basher. I wanted to be a Chi Cop when I was in HS and had many friends on the CPD over my time. And I listen to CPD Radio calls every day, like right now. But today, I wouldn't do their job for $250K a year with the crap they have to put up with and the absolute JUNK they have to work with. Not to mention they're undermanned by at least 3,000 Cops today. Some cops say they need 5,000 more.

Here's a neat Blog to get the skinny on what really is going on with the CPD and the REAL CRIME in Chicago: Second City Cop. It's run by a Pro 2A Chi Copper and he doesn't hold back.
[note: comments made on threads may be offensive to some or: 'Raciss' /s]

45 posted on 03/16/2013 7:33:25 AM PDT by Condor51 (Si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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To: Condor51

That’s a fact Jack.


46 posted on 03/16/2013 7:33:52 AM PDT by X-spurt (Republic of Texas, Come and Take It!)
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To: PowderMonkey

Really nothing wrong with that pose. In ranks inspection of arms often requires the inspector to look down the barrel to check too see if it is clean. But, he only does this after the person holding the weapon has performed a clearing of the weapon. Normally the inspector takes the weapon in hand and double checks the weapon to see if it is cleared at the bolt before he starts looking down barrels etc.


47 posted on 03/16/2013 7:36:17 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
What’s that little Muppet camo dude doing down there?

Photobombing.

48 posted on 03/16/2013 7:37:26 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Don't be afraid to see what you see." -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: expat1000

49 posted on 03/16/2013 7:38:52 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: expat1000
Silly, gun training is only for soldiers strictly limited by ROE protecting the rights of enemy combatants to not insult the ‘international community’.

SWAT doesn't really need gun training anymore to deal with us pesky Americans. As the Dorner incident showed, they can simply burn the building down if actually engaging a perp is too scary for them. The gear we buy them is mainly to look cool and intimidate.

Who cares if others might be inside the building they burn? Officer safety is #1 and the media will keep it quiet to avoid riots.

50 posted on 03/16/2013 7:41:09 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: expat1000
Here's a picture of the dude's sister...


51 posted on 03/16/2013 7:42:21 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Manly Warrior
“At least he realized the fact his Holosight was on backward..”

I don't believe he's realized anything at that point.
I have the same Eotech sight, so I just had to check to see what you could see through it backwards. Unless you are totally high on adrenaline or something else, you are going to notice very diminished light transmission.
No qualified marksman would ever slap optics on their weapon and not zero them.
Makes me suspect these boys have never played with their toys before.

52 posted on 03/16/2013 7:46:19 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: RegulatorCountry
“What’s that little Muppet camo dude doing down there?”

Gettin ready to “burn that ..... down”.

“Accidentally” with flammable gas grenades.

53 posted on 03/16/2013 7:48:08 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: Condor51

And that ex-Rookie must now dump another $600 min on a new duty weapon
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Ol’ cynical me says that either some ‘higher up’ in the Dept or Union ‘Chain of Command’ had stock in another Company or, better yet, the Ammo required.

Kind of like the ‘old days’ when the Col would retire FRI afternoon and arrive Mon AM in the role of the GS job/position he had ‘created’ and written the specs for.

We stopped the Military from ‘unfairly’ doing that, shouldn’t we be stopping Pols from stepping into Lobbying or other jobs related to bills they write and act on?

Oh, thats right, THEY write the rules for the REST of us.
(Gee ain’t cynicism grand?)


54 posted on 03/16/2013 7:57:45 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --I turn 75 next year- but remember, that's only 24 Celsius. (TKS R. Reagan))
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To: RegulatorCountry

“What’s that little Muppet camo dude doing down there?”

Hiding.


55 posted on 03/16/2013 8:10:35 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Obama being re-elected is the political equivalent of OJ being found not guilty.)
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To: RetiredArmy

I think the guy holding the rifle is using his thumbnail to reflect light up the barrel. That was how we did it when checking for dirt.


56 posted on 03/16/2013 8:13:36 AM PDT by Starstruck (I need a 30 round magazine because liberal whine gives me a buzz.)
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To: Manly Warrior

“I would not think the primary sight would not be stored on the carbine, however, zero would be compromised.”

Probably some but not enough to notice. The Eotech is a short range “tactical” sight. It has no magnification so the range is limited to, maybe, 200 yards. What the Eotech does is give you very fast target acquisition and a laser like red dot on the target seen through the scope. Of course there is no actual red dot for the target to see and nothing shows on the front of the Eotech scope. While I’m sure the zero is affected some I don’t notice a difference when the Eotech is put back on the rail in the same position. Using the scope for targets 100 yards or less feels like cheating.


57 posted on 03/16/2013 8:17:38 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Yikes! Then hopefully he’s no longer SWAT but I wouldn’t bet on that either.


58 posted on 03/16/2013 8:20:16 AM PDT by MtBaldy (If Obama is the answer, it must have been a really stupid question)
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To: Lancey Howard

Probably pass right thru and not touch a single, solitary,thing!


59 posted on 03/16/2013 8:23:02 AM PDT by nomad
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To: expat1000

This may explain why they keep aiming at the bad guy but hitting his dog instead.


60 posted on 03/16/2013 8:24:53 AM PDT by Notary Sojac (Ut veniant omnes)
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