Posted on 03/14/2013 12:38:15 PM PDT by ckilmer
The Muslim Brotherhood of Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi has greeted a UN proposal designed to reduce violence against women with unabashed horror.
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While I haven't read the document in question, judging from the Brothers' response, the UN thinks it would be useful to raise the age of marriage, decriminalize homosexuality, make contraceptives more readily available, and give unmarried mothers the same rights as married ones. The Brothers are not pleased:
"The document includes articles that contradict established principles of Islam, undermine Islamic ethics and destroy the family, the basic building block of society, according to the Egyptian Constitution," the movement wrote. "This declaration, if ratified, would lead to complete disintegration of society, and would certainly be the final step in the intellectual and cultural invasion of Muslim countries, eliminating the moral specificity that helps preserve cohesion of Islamic societies."
A concern about cultural colonization is what spurred the foundation of the Muslim Brothers 80 years ago. Founding member Sayyid Qutb, executed by the Nasser regime in the 1960s for his activism, spent time in the late 1940s in the US and was horrified by what he considered the country's loose morals and materialism. A desire to preserve Egypt and Islam from what its leaders view as an external, hostile onslaught remains at the forefront of their agenda today.
They are terrified that the modern world is dragging Egyptians back to jahalliya, the age of ignorance before the coming of Islam, and made that clear in their complaint today. "These are destructive tools meant to undermine the family as an important institution," they complained of the UN proposal. "They would subvert the entire society, and drag it to pre-Islamic ignorance."
I agree with the MB on this one.
Blind squirrels find a nut occasionally......
Yeah, it’s sort of the Iran-Iraq War. You cheer for both sides to lose.
So you want four wives? You are gonna have to beat them regularly to keep them in line.
I certainly agree that the UN should mind its own business.
The vast majority of Egyptians are socially conservative. They are not like the Cairo University students the media tried to tell us would take over if Mubarak fell. The Egyptian people elected the Muslim Brotherhood, the second most popular party is even more religiously radical. Much of what the Islamic Brotherhood believes is backwards and they are certainly no friend of ours, but they are right to oppose these busy bodies at the UN trying to impose a secular left agenda on people who want nothing to do with it.
I agree with the MB on this one.
So you want four wives? You are gonna have to beat them regularly to keep them in line.
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Don’t agree on multiple wives.
Do agree that the secular humanist agenda of the UN further pushes the world into the dark ages that precede the age Abrahamic religions.
It's the only way they know for sure that you love them.
>>So you want four wives? You are gonna have to beat them regularly to keep them in line<<
Dunno about ck, but that strategy has worked for me. Except Wife #1 — she beats me like a rented mule!
I see nothing in the (worthless) UN’s proposal that is not already the law of the land here. As such it would have no negative impact here and certainly no positive impact either. If it destroys or undermines islam, I’m all for it.
The Brotherhood was founded by Sayyid Qtub after a visit to the U.S. He became convinced the U.S. was a society awash in sin and debauchery when he attended a dance in a church basement in Greeley, Colorado in 1949. He saw men and women dancing together and touching each other! Can you imagine!
Oh, and he thought the fair citizens of Greeley, then a dry town as to alcohol, watered their lawns too much.
Such is the crazed insanity of the MB. There is no common ground between us.
I'd hardly call an "anti-violence against women" campaign a "secular left agenda". It may well be part of a larger UN agenda that is leftist. But I think anything that helps muslims to recognize basic human rights is a good thing.
I'd hardly call an "anti-violence against women" campaign a "secular left agenda". It may well be part of a larger UN agenda that is leftist. But I think anything that helps muslims to recognize basic human rights is a good thing.
I do too, but haven’t the protected classes destroyed the world already? This affirmative action BS gave us 0bama; The emasculated coward raised by a Feminist single mother and transgender cross-dressing nanny. Generations of boys raised without fathers in the home is costing us dearly. The Female influence and control of the schools, the workplace, the media and politics has disenfranchised males and destroyed the progress of mankind. Stagnation abounds. ‘War on Women’ my azz.
On another note, we were a subcontractor to Boeing once, and the local Boeing QA rep was une femme égyptienne d'un certain âge, who had long stringy hair and and lots of gold braclets and rings and necklaces and she favored colorful folded silky clothing. I used to say she was a crystal ball short of fortune teller act.
We worked pretty closely together, and I could tell she was sweet on me, but she didn't like to show it. Somehow during some long boring testing which we were both compelled to witness, during a meandering and absolutely pointless conversation, she asserted to me that she was rich. Whether truthfully or not, I cannot tell, but I took it as an empty boast. I asked her to marry me. (Now it was out in the open! I knew she had a crush on me.) She said she could not because she was Muslim and I was Christian. I asked her why she assumed that. Besides if Omar Sharif could convert, why not me? Anyway, my German American wife most likely would have performed surgery on me that would have made the entire idea moot, had I mentioned it to her.
Now, I had this particular Egyptian woman eating out of my hand, but that's how you have to treat the your customer's QA rep. If some Muslim fool had ever tried to push ol' Esméralda around, she would have bit his fool head off.
Muslims in Muslim countries are compelled by the Quran and the Hadith to follow Sharia law, which is in direct contradiction to basic human rights. Thus, nothing (other than decoversion from Islam) will help them recognize basic human rights.
That will fail miserably. Either way, I don't want the UN involved in this sort of thing. Were it up to me, I'd slash our contribution to the UN and send them packing anyway.
4 wives isn’t the problem, but 4 mother in laws might make one think twice....:o)
Be careful of what you wish for.
You might want to re-think agreeing with the MB about relationships between the sexes.
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I don’t agree with the MB on their definition of the relationship between the sexes.
The particular thing that I agreed with them on was their fear of the effects of homosexuality and the culture of death.
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