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California Seizes Guns As Owners Lose Right To Keep Arms
Western Journalism Center ^ | March 12, 2013 | none stated

Posted on 03/12/2013 5:20:49 PM PDT by Texas Fossil

Wearing bulletproof vests and carrying 40-caliber Glock pistols, nine California Justice Department agents assembled outside a ranch-style house in a suburb east of Los Angeles. They were looking for a gun owner who’d recently spent two days in a mental hospital.

They knocked on the door and asked to come in. About 45 minutes later, they came away peacefully with three firearms.

California is the only state that tracks and disarms people with legally registered guns who have lost the right to own them, according to Attorney General Kamala Harris. Almost 20,000 gun owners in the state are prohibited from possessing firearms, including convicted felons, those under a domestic violence restraining order or deemed mentally unstable.

“What do we do about the guns that are already in the hands of persons who, by law, are considered too dangerous to possess them?” Harris said in a letter to Vice President Joe Biden after a Connecticut school shooting in December left 26 dead. She recommended that Biden, heading a White House review of gun policy, consider California as a national model.

As many as 200,000 people nationwide may no longer be qualified to own firearms, according to Garen Wintemute, director of the Violence Prevention Research Program at the University of California, Davis. Other states may lack confiscation programs because they don’t track purchases as closely as California, which requires most weapons sales go through a licensed dealer and be reported.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; confiscation; gun; guncontrol; mental; secondamendment
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To: DoughtyOne

All hand guns in CA have to be registered at time of purchase, just one law we let get passed we shouldn’t have. Long guns are not registered.


101 posted on 03/13/2013 12:55:10 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Gaffer; cyn

“And school/doctor/pharmacy records will be accessed for each ADHD, ADD pupil. They will be put on the “list” and denied the right to purchase a gun.”

This question is now on the form when you purchase, which is truly ridiculous, in more ways than one.


102 posted on 03/13/2013 4:46:58 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: CottShop

“-A few states might-but htose that do WILL BE financially crippled by the govenrment until eventuially there is no choice but to cave in”

Or secede.


103 posted on 03/13/2013 5:17:14 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Bernard Marx

In my earlier life, I was the owner of a few guns that had been registered. Having given careful thought to the pending future, I disposed of ALL my guns via the “Garage Sale” method. When sold, I advised the persons who bought them that the guns were registered. None of the buyers complained about that. I wrote a Sales receipt and still have those receipts filed away with some “other valuable posessions”. When the gun grabbers come a calling, I’ll show them my receipts and they can go pound sand.


104 posted on 03/13/2013 6:04:25 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Fresh Wind

Shivers up My Leg


105 posted on 03/13/2013 6:29:21 AM PDT by Big Red Badger
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To: Pollster1

How many gun owners will be reluctant to get mental health help if they know that they could permanently lose their rights


Don’t worry about it. The government will simply declare you to have a mental health problem and then come after your guns. See, it’s very simple....and no Constitutional problems involved.

It worked in the Soviet Union (declaring people were mentally defective) and many were sent to asylums to spend the rest of their (short) lives there.


106 posted on 03/13/2013 7:05:01 AM PDT by DH (Once the tainted finger of government touches anything the rot begins)
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To: Texas Fossil

So where are all those people who declared, “this far and no further,” those who flatly stated “one more infringement and the shooting will start,” and those who pound their chests and cry “MOLON LABE.”

Ten and twenty years ago, people were saying the same things. And the tyranny keeps increasing while the same people keep on repeating “not one step more!”

I’ve heard it all so many times and for so long, that I no longer believe anybody who claims they will resist, fight back, start shooting, or what have you. We are all frogs in the pot ready to jump out when it gets too hot. But each time the heat gets turned up, it’s only just a tiny bit warmer. Not enough to get too excited.

And if someone actually does feel the line has been crossed and they do something about it? They will be vilified in the press. Neighbors, Pastors, Police and the local government will all be put on air talking about what a crazy man he was, or how he was such an extremist, or how he was plotting to overthrow the government. And all the other frogs will be saying, “that guy was just a nut job. But if the government goes just one more step into tyranny, we’ll all be out there, shoulder-to-shoulder.”

Wake up, people. Our country was lost a long time ago. Some people just don’t want to admit it yet.


107 posted on 03/13/2013 11:53:42 AM PDT by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: WildSnail

First recent step. 2 recall petitions are underway in Colorado.

And from what I have read, CA is the only state that routinely confiscates weapons, the only one with registration.

There will be resistance to this at the State level. Legislation is in the works now in many states. Many states will openly defy any registration scheme the Feds attempt.

This is not over yet.

Texas as a state will not go for this. Will not happen.

Nor will most of the South.

Too many rednecks, oilies, hunters, farmers and those who choose to live outside the cities.

The left has been planning this a long time and they think there time is now. I contend it is not and this effort will fail. And the cost in the next election will remind them of the previous one.

FUBO!


108 posted on 03/13/2013 12:40:58 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
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To: Texas Fossil

I heard all the Jews in Nazi Germany had mental issues too.


109 posted on 03/13/2013 12:42:46 PM PDT by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Nita Nupress

that would be fine, but is it financially possible? (althoiugh I’m sure that if it comes to that the peopel of the state would GLADLY begin sendign hteir taxes to their OWN state instead of the fed gov since our government is no logner looking out for OUR itnerests)


110 posted on 03/13/2013 7:44:56 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: WildSnail

[[Ten and twenty years ago, people were saying the same things. And the tyranny keeps increasing while the same people keep on repeating “not one step more!”]]

Bingo! Exactly! I am fully convinced we have lost our will to stand up for ourselves any longer because it’s too inconvenient- might miss an episonde of oprah whiel slugging down our beer bought with food stamps or something- can’t let that happen-


111 posted on 03/13/2013 7:51:37 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: DoughtyOne; All

That’s the part I don’t get. The husband had guns, and if he bought them in CA he underwent the 10 day wait/background check, and his name is on the gun registry here in CA. So how did the wife’s mental health report cross check with the husband owning guns? I wasn’t aware that CA has a mental health registry. Are state employees now cross checking all mental health issues against the CA gun registry and removing guns if said guns are in a house with someone who has mental health issues...


112 posted on 03/13/2013 9:33:29 PM PDT by Saoirise (Free Larry Hutchins - USMC)
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To: Saoirise

this is just teaching the public. STAY AWAY FROM MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS.


113 posted on 03/13/2013 9:45:30 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: longtermmemmory

Sadly, people now realizing they will lose their 2nd Amendment rights will do everything they can to avoid getting help they may need. More consequences of liberalism.


114 posted on 03/18/2013 4:58:24 AM PDT by MachIV
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To: struggle

Are you serious? If so, you’re very naive!!!


115 posted on 03/18/2013 5:59:20 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org | Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: Texas Fossil; calex59

Sorry to drop out on you two like that.

My last gun purchase was made in the 1992, 93 time frame. At that time we had to submit to a background check, but we didn’t have to register. At least I don’t recall it that way.

Calex59, you are aware of something I did not know. I appreciate you mentioning it and setting the record straight.


116 posted on 03/18/2013 3:50:39 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Saoirise

I just went through a period when I could have used some counseling. I opted not to participate based on this issue alone.


117 posted on 03/18/2013 3:54:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Texas Fossil

Still waiting for the call to action.......Guess Paul Revere is at his kid’s basketball game.


118 posted on 03/18/2013 4:00:50 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: DoughtyOne
My last gun purchase was made in the 1992, 93 time frame. At that time we had to submit to a background check, but we didn’t have to register. At least I don’t recall it that way.

The handgun registration law in CA was in effect in the 90s. The thing is you don't have to actively register them, that is done for you when you buy it. The only time you would run across the law would be if you were stopped while going to the range or on your way to hunting and a cop might ask you if he could check the serial numbers on your gun. Another law that a lot of people don't know about in CA is a cop wants you to have a reason for having guns in the car(handguns have to be locked inside a container, glove compartment doesn't count)so he will ask you where you are going and where you have been. The correct answer is "I have been shooting or hunting or I am going shooting or hunting", they can't actually do anything to you if you aren't going shooting/hunting but they can make your life miserable for a short period of time.

119 posted on 03/20/2013 8:49:36 AM PDT by calex59
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