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DISARMING AMERICA’S HEROES: Veterans get letters from VA prohibiting ownership or purchase of guns
http://michaelconnelly.jigsy.com/ ^ | february 20, 2013 | Michael Connelly

Posted on 02/21/2013 5:58:29 PM PST by lowbridge

How would you feel if you received a letter from the U.S. Government informing you that because of a physical or mental condition that the government says you have it is proposing to rule that you are incompetent to handle your own financial affairs? Suppose that letter also stated that the government is going to appoint a stranger to handle your affairs for you at your expense? That would certainly be scary enough but it gets worse.

What if that letter also stated: “A determination of incompetency will prohibit you from purchasing, possessing, receiving, or transporting a firearm or ammunition. If you knowingly violate any of these prohibitions, you may be fined, imprisoned, or both pursuant to the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, Pub.L.No. 103-159, as implemented at 18, United States Code 924(a)(2).”?

That makes is sound like something right from a documentary on a tyrannical dictatorship somewhere in the world. Yet, as I write this I have a copy of such a letter right in front of me. It is being sent by the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs to hundreds, perhaps thousands, of America’s heroes. In my capacity as Executive Director of the United States Justice Foundation (USJF) I have been contacted by some of these veterans and the stories I am getting are appalling.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; guns; secondamendment; veterans
http://michaelconnelly.jigsy.com/entries/general/disarming-america%E2%80%99s-heroes
1 posted on 02/21/2013 5:58:40 PM PST by lowbridge
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To: lowbridge
You never provide the VA with any information psychological in nature. Been there...Almost done that.
2 posted on 02/21/2013 6:03:21 PM PST by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: lowbridge

The first people Lenin got rid of at the start of the Bolshevic Revolution was former military and police. After WW1 returning soldiers had their firearms and were asked to turn them in since the war was over. They complied. And died.


3 posted on 02/21/2013 6:12:44 PM PST by o_zarkman44 ("When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty." Thomas Jefferson)
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To: lowbridge

I have sent an email to the author of the original article and requested a copy of the letter. If he sends it I’ll post it, somehow.


4 posted on 02/21/2013 6:21:16 PM PST by ducttape45
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To: lowbridge

At my VA we have to go through metal detectors and remove our belts as we are scanned and examined.

I also notice no Christian symbols or signs of it’s existence, but plenty of new age humanist posters and collections/symbols in individual offices, and I had to complain about one staff member Islamic Evangelist trying to convert me.


5 posted on 02/21/2013 6:23:04 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: lowbridge
Tom Coburn tried to get this overturned last year, but was not successful. Vets' Gun Rights Sticky Issue in Defense Bill

Amazing. Some VA bureaucrat deems a veteran incapable of handling his own finances and then decides he's not allowed to own firearms to boot.
6 posted on 02/21/2013 6:24:10 PM PST by Girlene
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To: lowbridge

it is easy,

“What gun?”

No such thing as a fair fight.


7 posted on 02/21/2013 6:27:18 PM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: ducttape45

Do you doubt the authenticity or just want to see the whole letter?


8 posted on 02/21/2013 6:30:00 PM PST by Girlene
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To: hadaclueonce

the only way the bastards exist is because they think honest people will remain honest.


9 posted on 02/21/2013 6:30:12 PM PST by hadaclueonce (you are paying 12% more for fuel because of Ethanol. Smile big Corn Lobby,)
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To: HiJinx

Banglist


10 posted on 02/21/2013 6:31:13 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: hadaclueonce
No such thing as a fair fight.

Yuppers.

11 posted on 02/21/2013 6:43:09 PM PST by elkfersupper ( Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: lowbridge
At the federal level, there is the clause, "shall not infringe". At the state level, particularly with the first colonies that became states it is written in their Constitutions, "shall not be questioned".

There is a reason for that.

12 posted on 02/21/2013 7:02:26 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - Shall not be questioned)
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To: hadaclueonce; Girlene
the only way the bastards exist is because they think honest people will remain honest.

and the way the bastards cease to exist will be because they don't understand honest people will remain true

13 posted on 02/21/2013 7:08:58 PM PST by bigheadfred
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To: mosaicwolf

Even if you do, though, it shouldn’t nullify due process.


14 posted on 02/21/2013 7:34:03 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: butterdezillion

Even if you do, though, it shouldn’t nullify due process.

Unfortunately, you will have to have a few hundred thousand dollars laying around and a decade or so to fight your taxpayer funded lawyers! They won’t nullify due process, they’ll just make it a long and painful process.


15 posted on 02/21/2013 8:10:26 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (The Progressive mind...an arid ethical and moral wasteland!)
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To: lowbridge

I retired over 10 years ago and I’ve never been to the VA. Never will.


16 posted on 02/21/2013 8:21:53 PM PST by aomagrat (Gun owners who vote for democrats are too stupid to own guns.)
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To: lowbridge

I am a Korean war vet....No hero did my job went where they sent me a trooper (ex airborne) bla bla bla.... Go to VA hospitals where they have the facilities they send me to keep me alive and they are doing so.

And honestly met only very dedicated good people but there are a few. Never was told no gun for you no metal detectors when I go where they send me .Never used pot but know guys who have mental conditions.Byour local and state laws if you are fd up they are required by law and should deny you having a piece and I suspect that ‘s where this is comming from.

Let me says something about the month off sequesteresd B/S your hearing sbout...They get paid back (recompenced) after the B/S is over with.


17 posted on 02/21/2013 9:47:29 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: Girlene

Always have to check your sources. I have a copy of the letter now, and if you want a copy of it all you have to do is email the gentlemen in question and he’ll send it to you, but he asked that I not post it here.


18 posted on 02/22/2013 4:21:14 AM PST by ducttape45
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To: ducttape45
Thanks, ducttape45. I guess this practice has been around for a while. From Veterans' gun rights a sticky issue in defense bill>

The number of veterans directly affected by the VA's policy doesn't appear to very large. Only 185 out of some 127,000 veterans added to the gun-check registry since 1998 have sought to have their names taken off, according to data that the VA shared with lawmakers during a hearing last June.

If you read comment 9 associated with the article in the thread, it sounds like deeming a vet incompetent may not have anything to do with being mentally incompetent, AND that it might not be that easy to get off their list.

Overall, this is very disturbing that the VA has this kind of power without having to go to court to prove their case, and to do so by a bureaucrat who doesn't have a clue about the patient.
19 posted on 02/22/2013 5:05:35 AM PST by Girlene
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