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Police in Christopher Dorner standoff launched incendiary tear gas into cabin
NY Post ^ | Feb 14, 2013 | CHUCK BENNETT and DAVID K. LI

Posted on 02/14/2013 6:21:43 AM PST by KeyLargo

Edited on 02/14/2013 9:25:10 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: rarestia

Young man please seek professional help for you personal issues.

Go to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Whb4Ax96dxs


141 posted on 02/14/2013 8:41:46 AM PST by KeyLargo
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To: slowhandluke

There are the “cops can do no wrong” crowd who say Weaver should have immediately surrendered. All Weaver knew was that some guys had shot his friend, his son and his son’s dog. So why would he walk out and say “Shoot me, too.”


142 posted on 02/14/2013 8:42:21 AM PST by Terry Mross (How long before America is gone?)
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To: penelopesire

BTW, please point out where I have said you or anyone else supports Dorner. My problem is the attempt to make this into the next Waco when it is nothing of the sort - and much of the stuff being claimed erodes basic concepts of self-defense.


143 posted on 02/14/2013 8:44:32 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: vbmoneyspender; baddog 219
>>I guess the term, "To serve and to protect" doesn't apply to everyone...
>
>The police killed Dorner before he could kill more innocents so it sure applied in this case.

If that's the case then why, as noted elsewhere on the thread, did the live-TV interviews of residents have them expressing relief, not that Dorner was dead, but that the police wouldn't hurt them?

144 posted on 02/14/2013 8:46:01 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: BlueDragon

What I said on that on another thread:

“The actions of the Torrence cops shooting up a BLUE TOYOTA TACOMA and the LAPD in ramming a BLACK HONDA RIDGELINE that looks nothing like a GREY NISSAN TITAN and shooting at the OBVIOUSLY NOT DORNER WHITE GUY after visually confirming he wasn’t Dorner are actions that warrant extreme brutal and with malice aforethought scrutiny.”

There need to be firings and charges brought over it at the least.


145 posted on 02/14/2013 8:46:22 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: dirtboy

What if Dorner had been shot and killed at that point? Would that have been OK?

YES! Then announce you shot him. But don’t burn the building down then deny it. Obviously someone with the SBCSO, probably an attorney, is telling the sheriff that it’s not in the best interest of LO to admit it.


146 posted on 02/14/2013 8:46:28 AM PST by Terry Mross (How long before America is gone?)
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To: Darksheare

Wouldn’t it be something if some cop gets fired over this then goes out and becomes “Dorner #2”.


147 posted on 02/14/2013 8:48:34 AM PST by Terry Mross (How long before America is gone?)
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To: KeyLargo

What is your damage, sir? Have you nothing to say but spout insults? Are you incapable of critical thought to the point that you cannot respond with anything but insulting pablum?

You’ve now responded to me twice with insulting media insinuating that I am incapable of rational, lively debate on a level to which you apparently ascribe and do not deign to dip below. Does this mean that nothing I’ve said means anything to you outside of a simple amalgamation of words? Are you incapable of grasping even the simplest of ideas to which you can respond with even a modicum of cogent thought?

I believe you’ve shown to me and to the entirety of this thread that you are nothing more than a grumpy old man who does not wish to partake in any level of civil discourse. You are the anti-American sir, insomuch as you are unwilling to debate or discuss the issues with anyone with whom you might disagree, and as such, I would go so far as to label you as no better than any Democrat, Liberal, and/or Progressive who would cast aside the Constitution of this country in lieu of a global socialist agenda.

If you truly are a combat veteran, sir, then you are a disgrace to the uniform for not standing up for any of the values to which you swore an oath, and I pray that your golden years are spent silent and outside of the realm of influence to those of us who wish to fight (physically or through debate) to see this country rise to its former glory.


148 posted on 02/14/2013 8:49:00 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: DManA
Anyone read anything about the people who owned the house? Wonder if insurance covers the loss or are they just screwed?

If someone was smart they'd make it a tourist attraction. And have nightly marshmallow roasts.

149 posted on 02/14/2013 8:51:03 AM PST by McGruff (You are either with us or you are with the RINOs.)
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To: plain talk
I don’t have much sympathy for this cop killer but disdain how he was executed.

I can somewhat see both sides.

Frankly, this whole drama has puzzled me from the start.

It wouldn't be all that difficult for his manifesto/internet postings to have been altered or even fabricated completely. Absent that, everything we supposedly know about this guy comes from the mouth of LAPD - an organization that certainly has historical credibility problems, and was accused of corruption by Dorner.

It also bothers me that a guy with his military and police background would suddenly act completely against his training and presumed ethics. He supposedly kills some innocents to make a point, but then spares others that would have made tactical sense to eliminate.

We get reports his wallet and IDs are found near the Mexican border, then find out that he thoughtfully removed his fireproof driver's license (why? in case he gets pulled over?) so his body can be conveniently identified later.

One day, he's a master tactician armed with detailed knowledge of police procedure, the next, he bungles into a checkpoint (something he should have and could have easily avoided), going "somewhere" apparently without a plan or supplies, and gets burned alive in a cabin alone because it was somehow too dangerous to have him surrounded and isolated.

Admittedly, I probably don't know all the facts, despite my effort, but I just think something about this whole story doesn't smell right.
150 posted on 02/14/2013 8:51:08 AM PST by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: Terry Mross
YES! Then announce you shot him. But don’t burn the building down then deny it.

I really don't care. Honestly. He had already killed one deputy at that location. What difference does it make if he was shot or roasted? It ended the incident without further jeopardy to the LEOs there.

Too many posters are trying to make this into another Waco. It isn't.

151 posted on 02/14/2013 8:52:02 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Terry Mross

Would be extremely ironic if it was the guy who rammed the Black Honda Ridgeline.


152 posted on 02/14/2013 8:53:04 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free.....)
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To: OneWingedShark
If that's the case then why, as noted elsewhere on the thread, did the live-TV interviews of residents have them expressing relief, not that Dorner was dead, but that the police wouldn't hurt them?

I'm confused, did the housekeepers he tied up at gunpoint say that? Or how about the guy he pointed a rifle at and whose car he stole? Did he say that? Or how about the woman whose cabin he holed up in and shot at the police from? Did she say that?

153 posted on 02/14/2013 8:54:28 AM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: chrisser

They couldn’t wait- it would intrude on Dear Leader’s address to his subjects.


154 posted on 02/14/2013 8:55:30 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: dirtboy

There is reasonable speculation that the cop killed that day was killed in friendly cross fire. I don’t know. Neither do the cops. If you read many of the news accounts carefully, they state that the cop died that day of gunshot wounds, and do not attribute the shooting to anyone in particular.

If an inquest has occurred and the caliber in question is determined to be exclusively Dorner’s, then we’ll have a new bit of information.

And, no, I did not say cops can’t use lethal force. I have been saying that non-lethal options probably existed that offered the option of Constitutional Due Process, and were apparently not exercised in favor of a pre-planned murder.

“Burn The M*****-F***er Down!” Coming to a house near you soon!


155 posted on 02/14/2013 8:56:23 AM PST by Uncle Miltie (Of the government, by the government, and for the government.)
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To: Travis McGee
I'm not condemning incendiary tear gas grenade use per se. But we need to watch out for this intentional police arson of a dwelling and its inhabitants being used against future "tea party terrorists" who "refuse to comply with firearms inspection laws" or whatnot

A point lost on many 'law and order' Freepers. You know, the ones who don't mind if the police break the law.

156 posted on 02/14/2013 8:58:41 AM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (Based on a letter from an 8 year old…school is now illegal…”cuz it’s yuckey and dumb".)
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To: Darksheare
Yes there have been posters on here expressing sympathy and support for Dorner.

Perhaps you have a link to a post expressing sympathy or support.

157 posted on 02/14/2013 9:00:02 AM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (Based on a letter from an 8 year old…school is now illegal…”cuz it’s yuckey and dumb".)
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To: Uncle Miltie
And, no, I did not say cops can’t use lethal force. I have been saying that non-lethal options probably existed

Oh, for crying out loud. It was a hot shootout and you think they should have been using beanbag rounds? Funny thing about a firefight - the longer it goes on, the greater the chance that more people get killed.

158 posted on 02/14/2013 9:00:02 AM PST by dirtboy
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To: Darksheare
"And Dorner said he wasn’t going to surrender OR be taken in alive. He intended to die."

He did? What reliable source did you get that info from? And when I say reliable, it immediately invalidates any Government source and any source wherein the people imparting the info are associated with any Main Stream Media.

And I'm not saying its false But these sources lie constantly and can't be trusted so just because they say it is so doesn't mean anyone should automatically believe it.

160 posted on 02/14/2013 9:01:08 AM PST by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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