Posted on 02/10/2013 10:20:46 AM PST by Colofornian
Woman accused of brutally murdering boyfriend describes religious conversion and sexual relationship...
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If there was something which you sought to gain, such as ampu portrayed as not knowing anything about what goes on in temple ceremonies, or what he can pass along be invalid for reason of his own self not having been there...it's now gone, along with a part of your own credibility.
"Hate therapy" as ampu spoke of it (in a semi-joking fashion as explained) not as in Mormons are openly taught to hate, but Hate Therapy as in how Mormons are taught everyone who questions or opposes their doctrines (especially those whom work to EXPOSE the doctrines hidden in works like "Doctrines & Covenants" and "Lectures & Discourses" ) only does so because they hate Mormons, not for reason of the doctrines and thinkings peculiar to Mormonism are much based upon falsehoods, both subtle and more egregiously ambitious.
Since Mormons otherwise claim to be the one true church, the opposition is also claimed to be working for monetary pay, if not direct payment by the devil, as was claimed in now since changed temple ceremony.
In your "27 years in law enforcement", how often would you guess you distorted what citizens said or did, as you did on this thread concerning ampu's own words?
Returning to the original scheduled program (the subject/article of this thread) it's painful to learn of what happened in this Arias case. How Travis as she related, had a Bill Clinton-like attitude towards sex (and what things that led to, blech) and how her own participation made her feel used, feel like a prostitute. That would undoubtedly be a horrible emotion, given the background of her relationship with Travis (he baptized her into Mormonism didn't he?) how Mormonism had originally been a part of their relationship, how things turned for the worse (and she found out Travis had been using other young fillies much the same way) and for whatever reasons led to her killing the guy. She snapped, right? Flipped out, lost it, went berzerker. She didn't exhibit previous habit pattern of loss of temper, etc?
If she had only stopped at some point, like after she had stabbed him enough times to enable her to get away, or have called guys like you(?) after killing him for her own safety. (Then again, why should anyone trust LE nowadays? They just emptied a handful of high capacity magazines into the back of a pick-up in L.A. in an attempt to kill one of their own rogue, recently fired officers. Did that cop "tell the truth" in his rambling manifesto? a mixed bag there...then woops! wrong truck! not one 300lb african american male, but two Hispanic female newspaper deliverers, in truck a different make and color. why anybody could have made the same mistake...)
What we see is her killing one Mormon (or should we say ex-Mormon?) boyfriend, then running directly into the arms of another one.
Which can call into possible question that portion of Mormonism which leads female human beings to the 'doctrinal understanding' they themselves cannot be "exhalted" out of this "terrestrial realm" to the "Celestial" (can't go to heaven) unless herself married to a temple ordinance keeping Mormon male? It serves in a way to keep guys in line, too. No perfection in this life, no soup for you, buddy. Or no soup at all from that little sweety who has or thinks she has a burning in her bosum for Joseph Smith's alleged restoration (of the Gospel). So ---stay in the cult for both sex and then more actual physical sex in the Celestial realm (which is supposedly where we are all pre-born as spirits, birthed by these heavenly couplings(?)before arriving here on earth in some body or another. All human 'spirits' come about by this process, according to Joseph Smiths "restored gospel", yes?
She couldn't have married the "good Mormon" she once rejected for the other, sexier one, once she went too far with bad boy sexy boy. But once she ended up with the "sexy guy" that turned out to be a "bad" Mormon, she had her chances for Celestial marriage, becoming a goddess of sorts herself, totally smashed. One way of escaping this petite hell would be if she could marry fat guy --- but there was the problem of having fooled around with sexy guy, making it be like almost as adultery for her to marry fat guy good mormon, unless sexy guy became DEAD, leaving her an almost-widow, sort-of good enough to be capable of remarrying, particularly if she could always tell one and all and convince herself too she never performed any "acts of marriage" with sexy guy (since those two never did marry and likely never would).
WHere did she go right after the killings? Straight to fat guy Good Mormon, whom she had arranged to meet up with...but was a day late to that meeting...because she had something to do first, like a murder to attend to? Am I getting these last details right?
Let it be remembered that although murder or killing for reason of sexual sins not be promoted or widely accepted among average Mormons today, and certainly not promoted as first choice or "best" cure, is has been reestablished on this thread that in past times killing for sex "crimes" (what was labeled as crime in Mormon communities) is not without precedent. See post # 89 for some brief information as to what I'm talking about in this...
One may argue she was just crazy...but she seems only about half-crazy, to me. Then again she allegedly had been religion shopping for years, before being lead by Travis sexy boy into Mormonism. Perhaps she thought she had finally found a home? Then she gets sexually used by the one that had converted (and baptized?) her. So I imagine there are gals whom could relate, and fathers that if they had known certain details, would have wanted to shoot the bastard, themselves.
What drove her to do it? How much did needing qualify for and then earn "exhaltation" and the like, with the attendant psychological pressures, the demands to be "perfect wife" or "prefect wife material" play into all of it? She went RIGHT TO a man she may have thought marriage or eventual marriage to would save her under a stilted version of Mormon theology, with the blood of the one having used her for sex, also paying for his sin & possibly hers somewhat too, leaving Travis the sexy sinner being out of the picture, and not able to stop her from marriage to fat guy or make more trouble for her later. (if she couldn't find a slimmer, good temple sexy boy in intervening months?)
So she goes off on the guy...but not simply in a sudden fit of rage. More like a fit of pent-up rage, pressure-cooker rage brought to higher heat by herself deliberately(?). Simply for being sexually used? Perhaps, there are woman that have felt that same emotion and desire to kill those whom would coo promises at them just to get in their pants. In this story is that all there is?
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So? So you creepily pore over peoples About pages too? Very peculiar.
I guess you'd know....
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Then you should find some other non-MORMONs like yourself to post to me saying how sympathetic they are as well that MORMONism's heresies are being exposed.
It might cause me to do some serious soul searching of my own.
No, I do not respect you. You spend far too much time here.
The poster really doesn't care and is merely trying to get a rise.
If there is no evidence posted to back up the claims, any intelligent juror would just consider the source and move on.
“theres not a shred of evidence that any explosives were detonated.”
She’s a piker, if she was to do it right she would have shoved a stuck if dynamite up his back side and lit the fuse!
(The ONLY man who speaks for GOD and who would NEVER 'lead the church astray'.)
That’s actually a ping list of LDS members kept my an FR LDS member. Was once used to flood Mormon threads about the issues with their theology with personal attacks on those of us with the temerity to question their assaults on Christianity. I.E. the exact OPPOSITE of what you are implying.
Many of these folks have been banned for their personal attacks on other Freepers.
What hateful attacks?
Is posting the words of lds leaders hate? And where is the hate directed, certainly not towards mormons but towards Christians.
So please, provide these hateful attacks directed at mormons, since you made the charge.
There are at least 10,000 Free Republic hate threads
Where? Please, provide examples rather than charges.
Is posting the words of lds leaders hate?
And where is the hate directed, certainly not towards mormons but towards Christians by these very leaders.
So please, provide these hateful attacks directed at mormons, since you made the charge.
(Unless you post a link or two to back up your wild accusations...)
The post count is 483, 239
WOW, with so many, it should be really easy for you to actually post a link or quote this elusive hate.
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