Posted on 02/08/2013 1:09:21 PM PST by smoothsailing
February 8, 2013
Paul Bedard
The war of words between conservatives and former Bush advisor Karl Rove has gone nuclear, this time over Rove's claim that he worked for Ronald Reagan's 1980 campaign and on a Reagan advisory board.
The bottom line: While Rove told The O'Reilly Factor Thursday that he worked for the Gipper, Reagan's acclaimed biographer Craig Shirley says there's no evidence to back Rove up.
Worse: In an email Shirley is sending to conservative leaders, he reveals that Rove backed former President Ford in 1976 and in 1980 worked for former Texas governor Clements who didn't back Reagan until after he was nominated.
Shirley penned the book about Reagan's 1980 presidential campaign, Rendezvous with Destiny, and today said he confirmed his research about Rove with several former Reagan campaign aides...
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
Correct, and concise.
My litmus test for conservatives may not be the same as others, but by conservative, I mean someone who upholds the Constitution and doesn't change his values according to the way the wind blows.
If they have most of my core values and I know where they stand on important issues, I might vote for them. I loved the way Guliani told off the Saudi’s after 9/11 and he's not exactly what one would call conservative, but I get the feeling he would uphold the Constitution. But this constant changing by the Republican elites to be Dem-lite just turns me off.
Ted Cruz is looking good. He seems to have a solid core so far.
SO true. When someone is elected in the primary, he doesn't like he goes after them and ensures they lose. This happened with Christine O'Donnell. He went after her after she won the primary and basically said those that voted for her were nuts. He wasn't a gracious loser at all.
Maybe if he and the other Republican elites hadn't bashed her the way they did, she might have had a chance. We will never know. The same with Todd Akins. he said a stupid thing and apologized for it, but the Republican elites went after him tooth and nails. Dems don't eat their own, but Republicans do (if it is someone outside the Republican elitist circle).
There is a lot of complaining on this thread about the current state of the GOP, but how many here are actually willing to do something about it? The clock is ticking to November 2014.
Excellent points, thank you for your post. I look back at how Hannity had “The Architect” on every half hour it seems, and how he was almost a regular on Fox and Friends. We have to vote.with our unison voices now because it is the last vestige of freedom that we have...no more period. Dollars withheld will also be the rule.
http://www.franklincase.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11&Itemid=9
With the GOP-E, they always expect Conservatives to back moderate or liberal Republican primary winners, but when the tables are turned, they walk away in a snit and ensure defeat. The same ting happened with Castle and O'Donnell. O'Donnell could have conceivably won if the GOP-E had backed her like it should have and Rove and company had not attacked her. Instead, they just sat back and refused to help her.
And remember Joe Miller in Alaska? In the middle of his campaign, when he was ahead, the GOP-E sent former Huckabee staffers up to bulk up his campaign. What did they do? They shoved his grassroots people aside, and advised him to publicly dump the Palins from his bandwagon. In the meantime, the GOP-E provided significant party resources, money, and staff to sour grapes Lisa Murkowski. The end result? Miller lost, and Murkoski got to rub Sarah Palin's nose in it.
Some people around here need to go back and look at the old election threads from 2010 and remember what was going on then.
In other words “HEY LOOK OVER THERE, LIBERALS (phew, now maybe they’ll forget about my lies)”.
I value the truth, in all circumstances.
Thanks smoothsailing.
“Why would he make up a b.s. story that could be easily refuted?”
Because it’s worked for him just fine up until now!
YES!!!
And this is exactly my point. The enemy right now is not the democrats, it's the republicans/GOPe. We might not be able to stop Rove but we can sure as shinola tell him where he can go! He's a big time rino supporter, regardless of what he's saying.
I never liked both Bush'es and I never liked Karl Rove. But I am astute enough to recognize Rove is not the real enemy. The real enemies are Obama-Reid-Pelosi-Clintons.
Of course, you were sure to say it in extra big blue letters. Calling yourself astute and drawing attention to your "astutution" (to coin a word) was bound to generate some ridicule. However, my criticism of you was for the substance of what you wrote. You said that Karl Rove is not the real enemy. I replied with a post making clear my belief that Karl Rove is indeed one of conservatism's enemies, and his enmity is sneakier, as well as potentially more harmful to the cause. You are welcome to disagree, but not to argue against things that have not been said.
I see the pattern, Rove does not like gov Palin. So what? I like gov Palin. Because I am a high information voter. I have observed her actions in AK and her speeches and her appearances on Fox News. But that is no reason for me to attack Rove. So long as he is supporting another REPUBLICAN, I am not going to form a circular firing squad.
President Reagan famously enunciated his 11th commandment “thous shall not speak ill of a fellow republican”. I follow that rule.
We should always have spirited primaries. That separates the weak from the strong. I am looking forward to 2016 primaries with a spirited contest between Marco Rubio & Rand Paul. It will be more interesting that between Mittens, Newt, Rick, Perry & Cain.
Only politicians who hurt my lifestyle are tax raisers, almost universally democrats. Even Bush-41 ran on “read my lips” but was stupidly gave in to democrat pressure to raise taxes. No other republican president has done that since I became a US citizen in 1970. If you are under 43 years age, you should defer to me, I have been a US citizen longer than you lol.
Thanks for clearing that up. You may want to read my post just above.
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