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Women shot during LAPD ex-cop manhunt had no warning, lawyer says
http://usnews.nbcnews.com ^ | 02-08-13 | By Tracy Connor

Posted on 02/08/2013 12:15:18 PM PST by Red Badger

A mother and daughter who were mistakenly shot by Los Angeles police hunting for rampage suspect Christopher Dorner had no warning before bullets started whizzing through their newspaper-delivery truck, their lawyer said Friday.

“No command, no instruction, no warning. They just opened fire on them,” said Glen Jonas, who is representing Emma Hernandez, 71, and Margie Carranza, 47, in possible legal action against the LAPD.

“They had no idea what was going on. They’re huddling, covering up and praying and hoping they’re not going to die.”

Both women survived. Hernandez, shot in the back, was in good condition Friday. Her daughter suffered a hand injury during the shooting and is now physically fine, but emotionally scarred, Jonas said.

The LAPD admits the predawn Thursday shooting was a case of mistaken identity that unfolded while police were guarding the Torrance home of someone named in a manifesto that ex-cop Dorner posted online about his twisted plans to avenge his firing.

Chief Charlie Beck said the officers saw a vehicle that matched the description of Dorner’s, driving through the dark streets with no headlights – and a “police-involved shooting” ensued.

Jonas said the women’s blue Toyota Tacoma looked nothing like Dorner’s dark-gray Nissan Titan, but that even if it had been a match, the police should not have fired on it.

“They still have to give the guy an opportunity to surrender. You can’t just execute him,” the lawyer said. “It’s in these high-stress situations where you follow your training and they violated every piece of training they ever received.”

The LAPD had no comment on Jonas’ claims.

He said he expects the city will offer his clients a substantial payout; if not, he plans to file a federal civil rights lawsuit.

“Thank God they didn’t die. It’s a miracle they didn’t,” he said. “If it was a movie, you wouldn’t believe it.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: banglist; christopherdorner; copbashersonfr; dorner; lapd; leftwingmurderer; partisanmediashills
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To: Red Badger

These cops should be in prison. Absolutely no excuse for firing on a car because it looked the same.


101 posted on 02/08/2013 1:25:06 PM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

Not to the back of the head!..........


102 posted on 02/08/2013 1:26:11 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: piroque

I recall a few of LA’s finest who body slammed a woman months ago, and they had support from not a few freepers here.....

“Wait for all the facts to come out,” they told us.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFztu-7BGoE


103 posted on 02/08/2013 1:27:58 PM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Absolutely no excuse for firing on a car because it looked the same.

That's just it, it DIDN'T! The suspect vehicle was a GRAY Nissan Pathfinder, this was a bright BLUE METALLIC Toyota Tundra!.........

104 posted on 02/08/2013 1:28:16 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Red Badger

They’ll say it was too dark to tell the difference. I guarantee that.


105 posted on 02/08/2013 1:30:34 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: jiggyboy

Were their lights not working as well?.............


106 posted on 02/08/2013 1:33:04 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: jiggyboy

Never mind shooting back, what if you correctly decide that somebody is trying to kill you, so you floor it? Now they won’t stop until they run your bullet-riddled truck off the road, and if it rolls over too, hey, that’s what happens when you run from the police.


This is why the police do not need drones.


107 posted on 02/08/2013 1:33:39 PM PST by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: jiggyboy

Was it only two cops? How many rounds are in their magazines?


108 posted on 02/08/2013 1:35:40 PM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Based on this it’s an obvious Cops whey will shoot Dorner on site. Judge, Jury, Executioner all in one kind of like Obama’s drone program.

I think we need legislation to ban these assault cops. Nobody needs these types of cops especially in groups of 10 or more. Assault cops kill people.


109 posted on 02/08/2013 1:35:40 PM PST by maddog55 (America Rising.... Civil War II)
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To: 2001convSVT

Seriously, how high can the percentage of “good ones” can their be?

A whole squad perpetrated this atrocity, and the rest of them will cover it up.


110 posted on 02/08/2013 1:37:16 PM PST by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Red Badger

I’ll let them handle that one. :-)


111 posted on 02/08/2013 1:38:00 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Politicalmom

“There be”, dummy!!


112 posted on 02/08/2013 1:38:30 PM PST by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Don W

Well hush my mouth. From an LA Times article:

“Carranza would briefly slow the truck to throw papers on driveways and front walks, he said. While taking corners, the women typically turn off their lights to avoid disturbing neighbors.”


113 posted on 02/08/2013 1:41:41 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Politicalmom

GRAMMAR POLICE! DON’T SHOOT! DON’T SHOOT! IT WAS JUST A TYPO!!!!!!!!........


114 posted on 02/08/2013 1:45:00 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

This is worse. It’s LAPD taking a woman to the ground twice. The second time is after she was handcuffed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFztu-7BGoE

Of course, she was ‘resisting arrest’ and the cops felt ‘threatened’.

All I’m seeing are reasons to never again visit LA or California in general.


115 posted on 02/08/2013 1:49:25 PM PST by MeganC (“Free Men Need Not Ask Permission!”)
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To: Red Badger

Well, really, I’m not going to shoot MYSELF
for correcting me...or something like that.

Heehee


116 posted on 02/08/2013 1:51:43 PM PST by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Politicalmom

I dunno, I have heard many stories about cops shooting themselves in the foot......or other places...........


117 posted on 02/08/2013 1:54:16 PM PST by Red Badger (Lincoln freed the slaves. Obama just got them ALL back......................)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

They could have easily been killed so yeah considering what could have been they are lucky


118 posted on 02/08/2013 1:54:51 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Red Badger
It seems that this isn't the only incident where officers have fired on a vehicle that they thought looked similar to Dorner's truck... I wouldn't be driving my truck in SOCAL at all right now if I were there.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2986662/posts
119 posted on 02/08/2013 1:56:51 PM PST by Sopater (...where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. - 2 COR 3:17b)
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To: Red Badger

People keep referring here to LAPD cops doing the shooting. Weren’t they Torrance PD? Torrance is a reasonably quiet community, and the police here are determined to try to keep it that way. They have a quick response time, and patrol the place pretty thoroughly. However, they probably don’t have as much experience with armed, dangerous people as LAPD does. I am surprised that they could overreact this badly.

The Daily Breeze is the local paper. I will expect to see extensive coverage on this over the coming days.


120 posted on 02/08/2013 2:07:40 PM PST by married21
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